Exclusive areas for islam in the UK?
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What a fantasy story. How come Christian preachers are NOT screaming hell for being punished with jailtime in 'secular' nation of Israel for preaching Christianity to Jews? In Israel, you cannot teach Christianity in any setting where a Jew - even an atheist or "secular" Jew - might be "exposed" to it.
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Police discriminate in favor of Muslim--what a load of BS!
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Police discriminate in favor of Muslim--what a load of BS!
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Is it now?
5 people arrested for posting video of the qu'ran being burnt.... as incitement to "racial" hatred..... Yet.... chaudry and his bunch of goons are allowed to burn my nations flag? Treason is acceptable? The police just stood by and watched.... You do not see an unequal balance of "justice"?
Snoopy, that would be, because the BNP post about it, it must be Nazi/racist propaganda.
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17th Angel--
I do not approve of any acts of violence, including burning of Qur'an, flags, etc.
But, the way you are making it sound is as if Muslims have more rights in your country than non-Muslims. Which, I strongly believe, is an outrageous claim. What your country's government consider's 'politically incorrect' is the issue with your government, and not Muslims. Not Muslims' fault for the British having overseas pretenses on oil and dominance, and hence having to allow incidences as you cite.
But, then again, being a European by birth myself (and white Muslim by birth also), I know the hypocracies of Europe. Double standards on all sides. You can't get them to agree on simple thing as: free speech. It's one thing to slurr insults at those you do not agree with and the other to express disagreement about something. So, in Europe, you can insult Muslims all you want, slam them in secret prisons without charges but only on suspicions, yet when it comes to other groups you get attacked.
For example. In my homeland Bosnia, Serb chetnick glorifying is allowed (chetnicks supported Hitler in WWII and committed many attrocities). Their "Ravnogorski" Movement is allowed to parade through cities with all kinds of facist symbology. Yet, a group of Muslims is publically declared "potential terrorists" for simply looking different (long beards, etc). So, a Muslim white by race, European Muslim by birth is not even free in his own country. I can imagine how the immigrants are treated in the rest of the Europe, then....
Not that two wrongs make right. Even Noble Qur'an says: "return evil with good so that even your enemy becomes your friend."
But common...
I do not approve of any acts of violence, including burning of Qur'an, flags, etc.
But, the way you are making it sound is as if Muslims have more rights in your country than non-Muslims. Which, I strongly believe, is an outrageous claim. What your country's government consider's 'politically incorrect' is the issue with your government, and not Muslims. Not Muslims' fault for the British having overseas pretenses on oil and dominance, and hence having to allow incidences as you cite.
But, then again, being a European by birth myself (and white Muslim by birth also), I know the hypocracies of Europe. Double standards on all sides. You can't get them to agree on simple thing as: free speech. It's one thing to slurr insults at those you do not agree with and the other to express disagreement about something. So, in Europe, you can insult Muslims all you want, slam them in secret prisons without charges but only on suspicions, yet when it comes to other groups you get attacked.
For example. In my homeland Bosnia, Serb chetnick glorifying is allowed (chetnicks supported Hitler in WWII and committed many attrocities). Their "Ravnogorski" Movement is allowed to parade through cities with all kinds of facist symbology. Yet, a group of Muslims is publically declared "potential terrorists" for simply looking different (long beards, etc). So, a Muslim white by race, European Muslim by birth is not even free in his own country. I can imagine how the immigrants are treated in the rest of the Europe, then....
Not that two wrongs make right. Even Noble Qur'an says: "return evil with good so that even your enemy becomes your friend."
But common...
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Then why are some arrested for posting a video (not them, themselves doing it) someone burning a book arrested?
While -in public- the muslim burns my nations flag gets to walk away and continue to slag off my country?
Sorry, I fail to see a balance.
While -in public- the muslim burns my nations flag gets to walk away and continue to slag off my country?
Sorry, I fail to see a balance.
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Check out this story:
"The Crime of Rhyme": The Extraordinary Case of Samina Malik
Fahad Ansari
Article ID: 1328 | 1224 Reads
[First published in Crescent International (December 2007)]
Last month, a new landmark was reached in Britain's war on freedom with the conviction of Samina Malik, the first woman to be convicted under the Terrorism Act. The 23-year old W. H. Smith shop-assistant was not caught with explosives; nor did she have in her possession blueprints of government buildings or a suicide belt. Samina was caught red-handed with some lines of poetry. This self-styled "lyrical terrorist" spent her spare time writing verse glorifying jihad. Couplets like "For the living martyrs are awakening, and Kuffar's world soon to be shaking", describing the Islamic revival in the face of unprecedented global oppression of Muslims, were deemed to be so inciteful and dangerous that Samina was convicted of collecting articles "likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism".
In addition to her poems, the evidence against Samina is that she possessed a library of "extremist" literature in her bedroom, including a service manual for a rifle, a copy of the Mujahideen Poisons Handbook and Usama Bin Laden's "Declaration of War against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Places." All are items easily available on the internet by conducting a basic Google search; they are routinely accessed by researchers, students, journalists, lawyers and curious teenagers. But Samina's possession of these items was deemed to be tainted by the fact that she used screen-names such as "Bint al Shaheed" (a title she says was chosen in honour of her grandmother, who died of liver cancer in 2002) and "Stranger Awaiting Martyrdom". Despite there being no other evidence against her whatsoever, no details of any plot, no co-conspirators, no indication of what she intended to do or where, Samina has been convicted of terrorism and is awaiting sentencing.
To fully comprehend the injustice of this conviction, one need only examine the treatment of non-Muslims apprehended with far more dangerous items than bits of verse on scraps of paper. The week after Samina was convicted, one Gregory Whittam was convicted after police found two home-made bombs at his home in Manchester on 7 July, 2007, the second anniversary of the London bombings. Whittam used to spend hours browsing websites which demonstrated how to make bombs, and was deemed to have an obsession with explosives. Without even being charged under the Terrorism Act, Whittam was given a two-year community supervision order.
Earlier this year, Robert Cottage and David Jackson, two former members of the BNP, appeared in court after police discovered in their homes the largest cache of firearms and chemical explosives ever found in the West Midlands region. The two men also possessed a rocket-launcher, a nuclear biological suit, documents outlining plans to blow up mosques and Islamic centres throughout Britain, notes about a possible attempted assassination of Tony Blair (then prime minister), and notes about an impending civil war against immigrants in Britain. Cottage believed that if there wasn't "blood on the streets", the country would be "lost". He received a two-and-a-half-year sentence for his crimes. His co-defendant, David Jackson, walked free.
Contrast this with the case of Muhammad Atif Siddique, who was convicted last October of a number of terrorism offences after the police found sound and video files glorifying jihad in various parts of the world, as well as downloaded documents on military strategy on his laptop. There was little other evidence against Siddique. Even the prosecutors were forced to admit that they had not found any evidence that Siddique himself was planning to carry out any attack, and that far more extreme material can be found on legal sites run by anti-terror experts such as Evan Kohlmann, who appeared as a witness against Siddique. Siddique was sentenced to eight years' imprisonment for what his lawyer, Aamer Anwar, afterwards described as "doing what millions of young people do every day - looking for answers on the internet". Anwar is now facing jail on charges of contempt for court for his comments.
This brief overview of the manner in which some terrorism cases have been dealt with this year alone reveals a serious double standard when it comes to Muslims and the issue of freedom of speech. It appears that for a Muslim to address the issues of the Muslim world in any terms which go beyond capitulation to oppression is to run the risk of falling foul of the anti-terrorism laws. Words such as jihad and shari'ah have been so demonised that part of the evidence against Samina Malik was that she possessed a bracelet with the word jihad engraved on it.
Yet for non-Muslim rap artists, glorifying violence, murder, rape and terrorism is considered acceptable and often glorified as "art". Take for example the following words from a track called "Blood for Blood" by the Wu-Tang Clan:
To all my Universal Soldier's: stay at attention while I strategize an invasion; the mission be assassination, snipers hitting Caucasians with semi-automatic shots heard around the world; my plot is to control the globe and hold the world hostage . . . see, I got a war plan more deadlier than Hitler . . . lyrical specialist, underworld terrorist . . . keep the unity thick like mud . . . I pulling out gats , launching deadly attacks...
Or for a far cruder and more recent example, look at the following by DMX in a track entitled "X is Coming":
And I'm gunnin' for your spouse
Tryin' to send that bitch
Back to her maker
And if you got a daughter older than 15
I'ma rape her, take her
On the living room floor
Right there in front of you
Then ax you seriously, 'what you wanna do?
These are only two relatively moderate examples of the indoctrination which millions of young people undergo everyday in a society which glorifies these artists as heroes and role-models. Yet when Samina Malik, with no previous criminal record, scribbles a poem about beheading, she is considered such a threat to society that she should be incarcerated for terrorism.
Muslims have to be concerned about these severe restrictions on their freedom of speech and expression. Last month, an internal Whitehall document was disclosed which stated that the number of terrorist prisoners is projected to soar to 1,600 by 2016 or 2017: 1,300 of them are expected to be classified as maximum-risk category-A prisoners. Currently there are 131 terrorist prisoners in jails in England and Wales. Judging by the fact that most of those who have been convicted of terrorism until now have been "no closer to a bomb or a firearm than a computer keyboard", as a High Court judge described Younis Tsouli before sentencing him to ten years' imprisonment, it seems that these 1,600 prisoners will consist of more Samina Maliks than Muhammad Siddique Khans. Tsouli's conviction is fascinating because the judge himself, Justice Openshaw, stated that Tsouli and his two co-defendants had only engaged in 'cyber-jihad' and declared that "It would seem that internet websites have become an effective means of communicating such ideas." This suggests that these men were convicted not for their actions but for their ideas. Consequently, they were sentenced to a total of 24 years between them: such sentences are normally reserved for the worst crimes of murder and rape.
It is absolutely clear that this clampdown is part of a wider attempt to engineer a version of Islam that is devoid of the concepts of jihad, martyrdom, ummah and ikhwah. Last September Sheykh Riyadh ul-Haqq, one of the most respected and influential Deobandi scholars in Britain, came under severe scrutiny for his lectures. The Times reproduced no less than five entire speeches of his: "Infinite Justice"; "Jewish Fundamentalism and the Muslims"; "The Globalised Suffering of the Muslims"; "On our Responsibilities as Muslims"; and "Imitating the Disbelievers". In these lectures Sheykh Riyadh has addressed the plight of Muslims around the world, the hypocrisy and double standards of Western governments, the need for Muslims to concern themselves with tackling oppression and establishing social justice rather than their own personal problems, Muslim identity, and apartheid and occupation in Palestine. The subsequent witch-hunt against Sheykh Riyadh and the Deobandi community implies that discussing these issues is incompatible with Western 'values'. To discuss the oppression of Muslims in Britain and abroad is to spread extremism; to speak of Allah's justice and punishment of the oppressors is to promote terrorism; even to mention the J-word is high treason.
But Muslim scholars are not the only leaders promoting holy war and martyrdom. On 28 October, 2007, the leader of the Roman Catholic Church, Pope Benedict XVI beatified almost 500 Catholics who died during the Spanish Civil War. He stated in the course of the ceremonies that:
The contemporaneous inclusion of such a large number of martyrs to the list of the blessed shows that the supreme witness of blood is not an exception reserved only to a few individuals, but is a realistic possibility for the entire Christian people. We are in fact talking about men and women who vary in terms of age, vocation and social background but who paid with their life their faithfulness to Christ and the Church …Their example bears witness to the fact that the baptism commits Christians to participate with courage to expand the kingdom of God going so far as sacrificing their very lives.
This statement, which glorifies martyrdom, by the spiritual leader of one sixth of the world's population went virtually unreported in the mainstream press and media, despite the fact that he spoke about an issue that even most Muslim scholars today stay away from: the concept of offensive jihad to expand the "kingdom of God" and being prepared to sacrifice one's own life in the process.
One scrap of paper used in evidence against Samina Malik contained the following words: "The desire within me increases every day to go for martyrdom, the need to go increases second by second." Given the conditions of Muslims in the world today, it is hardly surprising that many in Britain recognise this sentiment.
"The Crime of Rhyme": The Extraordinary Case of Samina Malik
Fahad Ansari
Article ID: 1328 | 1224 Reads
[First published in Crescent International (December 2007)]
Last month, a new landmark was reached in Britain's war on freedom with the conviction of Samina Malik, the first woman to be convicted under the Terrorism Act. The 23-year old W. H. Smith shop-assistant was not caught with explosives; nor did she have in her possession blueprints of government buildings or a suicide belt. Samina was caught red-handed with some lines of poetry. This self-styled "lyrical terrorist" spent her spare time writing verse glorifying jihad. Couplets like "For the living martyrs are awakening, and Kuffar's world soon to be shaking", describing the Islamic revival in the face of unprecedented global oppression of Muslims, were deemed to be so inciteful and dangerous that Samina was convicted of collecting articles "likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism".
In addition to her poems, the evidence against Samina is that she possessed a library of "extremist" literature in her bedroom, including a service manual for a rifle, a copy of the Mujahideen Poisons Handbook and Usama Bin Laden's "Declaration of War against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Places." All are items easily available on the internet by conducting a basic Google search; they are routinely accessed by researchers, students, journalists, lawyers and curious teenagers. But Samina's possession of these items was deemed to be tainted by the fact that she used screen-names such as "Bint al Shaheed" (a title she says was chosen in honour of her grandmother, who died of liver cancer in 2002) and "Stranger Awaiting Martyrdom". Despite there being no other evidence against her whatsoever, no details of any plot, no co-conspirators, no indication of what she intended to do or where, Samina has been convicted of terrorism and is awaiting sentencing.
To fully comprehend the injustice of this conviction, one need only examine the treatment of non-Muslims apprehended with far more dangerous items than bits of verse on scraps of paper. The week after Samina was convicted, one Gregory Whittam was convicted after police found two home-made bombs at his home in Manchester on 7 July, 2007, the second anniversary of the London bombings. Whittam used to spend hours browsing websites which demonstrated how to make bombs, and was deemed to have an obsession with explosives. Without even being charged under the Terrorism Act, Whittam was given a two-year community supervision order.
Earlier this year, Robert Cottage and David Jackson, two former members of the BNP, appeared in court after police discovered in their homes the largest cache of firearms and chemical explosives ever found in the West Midlands region. The two men also possessed a rocket-launcher, a nuclear biological suit, documents outlining plans to blow up mosques and Islamic centres throughout Britain, notes about a possible attempted assassination of Tony Blair (then prime minister), and notes about an impending civil war against immigrants in Britain. Cottage believed that if there wasn't "blood on the streets", the country would be "lost". He received a two-and-a-half-year sentence for his crimes. His co-defendant, David Jackson, walked free.
Contrast this with the case of Muhammad Atif Siddique, who was convicted last October of a number of terrorism offences after the police found sound and video files glorifying jihad in various parts of the world, as well as downloaded documents on military strategy on his laptop. There was little other evidence against Siddique. Even the prosecutors were forced to admit that they had not found any evidence that Siddique himself was planning to carry out any attack, and that far more extreme material can be found on legal sites run by anti-terror experts such as Evan Kohlmann, who appeared as a witness against Siddique. Siddique was sentenced to eight years' imprisonment for what his lawyer, Aamer Anwar, afterwards described as "doing what millions of young people do every day - looking for answers on the internet". Anwar is now facing jail on charges of contempt for court for his comments.
This brief overview of the manner in which some terrorism cases have been dealt with this year alone reveals a serious double standard when it comes to Muslims and the issue of freedom of speech. It appears that for a Muslim to address the issues of the Muslim world in any terms which go beyond capitulation to oppression is to run the risk of falling foul of the anti-terrorism laws. Words such as jihad and shari'ah have been so demonised that part of the evidence against Samina Malik was that she possessed a bracelet with the word jihad engraved on it.
Yet for non-Muslim rap artists, glorifying violence, murder, rape and terrorism is considered acceptable and often glorified as "art". Take for example the following words from a track called "Blood for Blood" by the Wu-Tang Clan:
To all my Universal Soldier's: stay at attention while I strategize an invasion; the mission be assassination, snipers hitting Caucasians with semi-automatic shots heard around the world; my plot is to control the globe and hold the world hostage . . . see, I got a war plan more deadlier than Hitler . . . lyrical specialist, underworld terrorist . . . keep the unity thick like mud . . . I pulling out gats , launching deadly attacks...
Or for a far cruder and more recent example, look at the following by DMX in a track entitled "X is Coming":
And I'm gunnin' for your spouse
Tryin' to send that bitch
Back to her maker
And if you got a daughter older than 15
I'ma rape her, take her
On the living room floor
Right there in front of you
Then ax you seriously, 'what you wanna do?
These are only two relatively moderate examples of the indoctrination which millions of young people undergo everyday in a society which glorifies these artists as heroes and role-models. Yet when Samina Malik, with no previous criminal record, scribbles a poem about beheading, she is considered such a threat to society that she should be incarcerated for terrorism.
Muslims have to be concerned about these severe restrictions on their freedom of speech and expression. Last month, an internal Whitehall document was disclosed which stated that the number of terrorist prisoners is projected to soar to 1,600 by 2016 or 2017: 1,300 of them are expected to be classified as maximum-risk category-A prisoners. Currently there are 131 terrorist prisoners in jails in England and Wales. Judging by the fact that most of those who have been convicted of terrorism until now have been "no closer to a bomb or a firearm than a computer keyboard", as a High Court judge described Younis Tsouli before sentencing him to ten years' imprisonment, it seems that these 1,600 prisoners will consist of more Samina Maliks than Muhammad Siddique Khans. Tsouli's conviction is fascinating because the judge himself, Justice Openshaw, stated that Tsouli and his two co-defendants had only engaged in 'cyber-jihad' and declared that "It would seem that internet websites have become an effective means of communicating such ideas." This suggests that these men were convicted not for their actions but for their ideas. Consequently, they were sentenced to a total of 24 years between them: such sentences are normally reserved for the worst crimes of murder and rape.
It is absolutely clear that this clampdown is part of a wider attempt to engineer a version of Islam that is devoid of the concepts of jihad, martyrdom, ummah and ikhwah. Last September Sheykh Riyadh ul-Haqq, one of the most respected and influential Deobandi scholars in Britain, came under severe scrutiny for his lectures. The Times reproduced no less than five entire speeches of his: "Infinite Justice"; "Jewish Fundamentalism and the Muslims"; "The Globalised Suffering of the Muslims"; "On our Responsibilities as Muslims"; and "Imitating the Disbelievers". In these lectures Sheykh Riyadh has addressed the plight of Muslims around the world, the hypocrisy and double standards of Western governments, the need for Muslims to concern themselves with tackling oppression and establishing social justice rather than their own personal problems, Muslim identity, and apartheid and occupation in Palestine. The subsequent witch-hunt against Sheykh Riyadh and the Deobandi community implies that discussing these issues is incompatible with Western 'values'. To discuss the oppression of Muslims in Britain and abroad is to spread extremism; to speak of Allah's justice and punishment of the oppressors is to promote terrorism; even to mention the J-word is high treason.
But Muslim scholars are not the only leaders promoting holy war and martyrdom. On 28 October, 2007, the leader of the Roman Catholic Church, Pope Benedict XVI beatified almost 500 Catholics who died during the Spanish Civil War. He stated in the course of the ceremonies that:
The contemporaneous inclusion of such a large number of martyrs to the list of the blessed shows that the supreme witness of blood is not an exception reserved only to a few individuals, but is a realistic possibility for the entire Christian people. We are in fact talking about men and women who vary in terms of age, vocation and social background but who paid with their life their faithfulness to Christ and the Church …Their example bears witness to the fact that the baptism commits Christians to participate with courage to expand the kingdom of God going so far as sacrificing their very lives.
This statement, which glorifies martyrdom, by the spiritual leader of one sixth of the world's population went virtually unreported in the mainstream press and media, despite the fact that he spoke about an issue that even most Muslim scholars today stay away from: the concept of offensive jihad to expand the "kingdom of God" and being prepared to sacrifice one's own life in the process.
One scrap of paper used in evidence against Samina Malik contained the following words: "The desire within me increases every day to go for martyrdom, the need to go increases second by second." Given the conditions of Muslims in the world today, it is hardly surprising that many in Britain recognise this sentiment.
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I don't live in Iraq nor Afghanistan... I also am not apart of NATO... Ergo... What has that got to do with it?
simple, practice what you preach. When your kids can be in their country, pointing loaded guns at and shooting whosoever they want to, why are you whining about their kids burning your flag in your country? Is what they are doing worse than what you are doing? You live in a democratic country right? What NATO is doing is your responsibility too.
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If I had any say/command in NATO I would agree, however I am not affiliated, the leaders of NATO make the calls *shrugs* That's NATO's call not mine. If I were in charge I'd leave the countries in the East to wipe themselves out, be a much better place to live.
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17th Angel--
No one would wipe themselves out in the Middle East. Western influence is one of the main reasons for ME wars in the last century and the beginning of this century.
Example:
1. Put Sadaam in power in Iraq, finance him, etc.
2. Get bin Laden aka Tim Osman on board with CIA, train him, etc.
3. Get Sadaam to go to war with Iran.
4. Get Tim Osman to do your bidding until he is not needed anymore, etc.
Emperial games. But, it's back firing. Muslims in the Middle East are finally opening their eyes (at least the peoples).
So, 17th Angel, when you say it is not your responsibility regarding NATO wars and stuff--why should you be believed? After all, majority like-minded people scream hell "No, don't believe!" when Muslims say they do not support terrorism, when they say they do not have anything to do with it. So, why is it acceptable for you to shrug off your responsibility but not for Muslims? Another European 'favorism', double standard?
It definately looks like it.
No one would wipe themselves out in the Middle East. Western influence is one of the main reasons for ME wars in the last century and the beginning of this century.
Example:
1. Put Sadaam in power in Iraq, finance him, etc.
2. Get bin Laden aka Tim Osman on board with CIA, train him, etc.
3. Get Sadaam to go to war with Iran.
4. Get Tim Osman to do your bidding until he is not needed anymore, etc.
Emperial games. But, it's back firing. Muslims in the Middle East are finally opening their eyes (at least the peoples).
So, 17th Angel, when you say it is not your responsibility regarding NATO wars and stuff--why should you be believed? After all, majority like-minded people scream hell "No, don't believe!" when Muslims say they do not support terrorism, when they say they do not have anything to do with it. So, why is it acceptable for you to shrug off your responsibility but not for Muslims? Another European 'favorism', double standard?
It definately looks like it.
Even if you had a say in NATO, you would do the same thing that they are doing now. Why didnt any easterner migrate to europe before the colonisation. Why now.........You cant leave the east, you cant survive without subjugating them. Which causes everything you'r whining about. Stop bugging people and they'll stop bugging you. But you want to have & eat the cake at the same time.....cant happen.
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We could not survive without the East? Elaborate on this.
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And yes you are both right, I am so sorry, how silly of me to no appreciate the muslim in my country when there is something happening far away that I have nothing to do with... Because of NATO's actions of course! I shouldn't be upset or offended by the muslim and his actions in my country... How silly of me.
If it is as simple as you lot make it, can we draw a quick contract up now? I'd happily swap ALL my countries soldiers back and you take back every last muslim... I'd LOVE to make that deal... I really would.
If it is as simple as you lot make it, can we draw a quick contract up now? I'd happily swap ALL my countries soldiers back and you take back every last muslim... I'd LOVE to make that deal... I really would.
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Sure we can do that. If you'd agree that in this contract we would also receive compensation for housing the illegals and the benefits and the prison costs and lives lost to terrorism. Then we got a deal
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I recently had the pleasure of visiting a Muslim Pakistani Area in the North of England and what a dump so much litter everywhere, I had no problems although I reckon if I'd stayed a bit longer there would have been trouble as some of the local youth look a bit pissed when they see my wife and I together, I visited some people in one particular street where they seemed shocked and slightly amused to see a white person there.
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It shouldn't be that way.... You should feel safe and free to go where you please. Not intimidated by "the locals". As for the dump part, yeah I have witnessed this on a few outings lately, you'd think they'd take pride and respect in the area they live....
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well thats just how it is really,
would be the same in a ****ty white area as well.
although you probably would not get arrested for preaching the gospel.
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I heard a report yesterday (I think) about people complaining that the police are "retreating" from the streets.. I guess this doesn't help the situation.