For Christians: an annual "Burn a Bible Day" for our sins in the last 2,000 years

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I would like to begin by putting this thread in context:

http://www.interfaith.org/forum/burn-the-quran-day-13093.html

As Christians we enjoy vilifying and demonising others and telling ourselves that other people are the villains and demons of this world. When will a time come when we start vilifying and demonising ourselves and actually repent of our own sins?

Our arrogance and self-righteousness has led to a lot of oppression, persecution and injustice around the world. We have burnt witches and killed Jews. We have told people that if they aren't Christians and haven't accepted Jesus as saviour, that they're going to burn in hell. We are right. Everybody else is wrong. Our behaviour and attitude is contrary to the teachings of Jesus and the apostles.

If the sacred text of another religion contains verses that speak of war and the conduct of war, we automatically label that religion as a violent and hateful religion. It does not matter that it has its own factions, that there is debate among them on what behaviour is commanded and prescribed and that its adherents try to be civil. When it comes to other religions, we are pessimists. We always choose the worst-case scenario. But regarding our own faith, we are optimists. Christians are always the good guys, even when they stuff up. When everyone else stuffs up, they're the bad guys.

If that religion is the fastest growing religion in the world, we become jealous. No other religion but Christianity can be the most popular in the world. We are supremacists and we like to maintain our hegemony in the world.

We always have to win. We hate it when other people get the advantage over us in our debates with Jews, Muslims, atheists and Buddhists. Christianity has to beat everyone and everything else. It always has to win. It always has to come out on top. We promote pride and arrogance among our collective and frown upon humility.

Enough is enough!!!! It is time for us to face the truth, that in our efforts to dominate the world, to think of ourselves as better than others, closer to God because of the creed we follow, that this arrogance that we carry is the greatest sin of all, greater than that of everyone else.

Pastor Terry Jones is one example of this paradigm that has spread around the world like a virus: that of Christian exceptionalism and supremacism. There are many more like him. He, among others, is the kind of person who treats homosexuals with contempt and commands members of their congregation to kill the doctors working in abortion clinics.

The rest of us Christians sit in silence and allow these power mongers to preach their evil. They do the exact opposite of what Jesus taught and have defiled and desecrated the same sacred text they use to justify their behaviour and attitude. Jesus was friendly to all classes and demographies. He preached against fundamentalism and legalism within his own religion, but never made it his agenda to vilify and demonise entire religions.

Enough sins have been committed in the name of Christianity, to the point that I think it is time for us all to repent for the injustices it has caused.

Repentance is not true repentace without humility. I believe the best way to express our humility and sincerity in how much damage our faith has caused and that we will do our best to correct this, is to burn bibles every year.

The burning of a bible will be like a sacrifice to God, atoning of the sins Christians have committed in the last 2,000 years in their lust and greed for power, domination and hegemony. It will be a declaration to really try to do what the book says, rather than vilifying and demonising other groups of people.

That is what I want to discuss -- should Christians have an annual "Burn a Bible" day as a way of repenting of their 2,000 year old sins?
 
nice post, although what would you like Christians to do about the Dove Outreach Church ? burn it down ? which may well happen actually.

As for burning the quran or the bible if the burning of a book offends people then I'm all for it.
 
nice post, although what would you like Christians to do about the Dove Outreach Church ? burn it down ? which may well happen actually.

Perhaps by an act of God, a wind will descend from the sky and blow the fire towards the main church building, igniting it.

I see the possibility of a law suit against God.

As for burning the quran or the bible if the burning of a book offends people then I'm all for it.

What? Are you serious? Is this a bit of British irony or sarcasm I see here?:eek:
 
Perhaps by an act of God, a wind will descend from the sky and blow the fire towards the main church building, igniting it.

no doubt Allah hath a fiery punishment for the Dove Outreach Centre.

What? Are you serious? Is this a bit of British irony or sarcasm I see here?:eek:

i have a hope that if people can be offended often enough they might see how stupid it is to get so angry about a book being burnt, thats my hope although I expect I will be disappointed.
 
Many many christians are treated like **** buddy... Bibles are burnt constantly... Just for being a christian people are beheaded made to feel inferior.... So there is no Rosey image here of all christians being in a better off situation you're just lucky sonny jim, and live in a nice place :) There are many, many christians that have to deal with what the muslim is dealing with for a BRIEF time here.... Every day of their lives.

Yes enough is enough, lets really face the truth.
 
I would like to begin by putting this thread in context:

http://www.interfaith.org/forum/burn-the-quran-day-13093.html

As Christians we enjoy vilifying and demonising others and telling ourselves that other people are the villains and demons of this world. When will a time come when we start vilifying and demonising ourselves and actually repent of our own sins?

Our arrogance and self-righteousness has led to a lot of oppression, persecution and injustice around the world. We have burnt witches and killed Jews. We have told people that if they aren't Christians and haven't accepted Jesus as saviour, that they're going to burn in hell. We are right. Everybody else is wrong. Our behaviour and attitude is contrary to the teachings of Jesus and the apostles.

If the sacred text of another religion contains verses that speak of war and the conduct of war, we automatically label that religion as a violent and hateful religion. It does not matter that it has its own factions, that there is debate among them on what behaviour is commanded and prescribed and that its adherents try to be civil. When it comes to other religions, we are pessimists. We always choose the worst-case scenario. But regarding our own faith, we are optimists. Christians are always the good guys, even when they stuff up. When everyone else stuffs up, they're the bad guys.

If that religion is the fastest growing religion in the world, we become jealous. No other religion but Christianity can be the most popular in the world. We are supremacists and we like to maintain our hegemony in the world.

We always have to win. We hate it when other people get the advantage over us in our debates with Jews, Muslims, atheists and Buddhists. Christianity has to beat everyone and everything else. It always has to win. It always has to come out on top. We promote pride and arrogance among our collective and frown upon humility.

Enough is enough!!!! It is time for us to face the truth, that in our efforts to dominate the world, to think of ourselves as better than others, closer to God because of the creed we follow, that this arrogance that we carry is the greatest sin of all, greater than that of everyone else.

Pastor Terry Jones is one example of this paradigm that has spread around the world like a virus: that of Christian exceptionalism and supremacism. There are many more like him. He, among others, is the kind of person who treats homosexuals with contempt and commands members of their congregation to kill the doctors working in abortion clinics.

The rest of us Christians sit in silence and allow these power mongers to preach their evil. They do the exact opposite of what Jesus taught and have defiled and desecrated the same sacred text they use to justify their behaviour and attitude. Jesus was friendly to all classes and demographies. He preached against fundamentalism and legalism within his own religion, but never made it his agenda to vilify and demonise entire religions.

Enough sins have been committed in the name of Christianity, to the point that I think it is time for us all to repent for the injustices it has caused.

Repentance is not true repentace without humility. I believe the best way to express our humility and sincerity in how much damage our faith has caused and that we will do our best to correct this, is to burn bibles every year.

The burning of a bible will be like a sacrifice to God, atoning of the sins Christians have committed in the last 2,000 years in their lust and greed for power, domination and hegemony. It will be a declaration to really try to do what the book says, rather than vilifying and demonising other groups of people.

That is what I want to discuss -- should Christians have an annual "Burn a Bible" day as a way of repenting of their 2,000 year old sins?
First of all "we" Christians do not include all Christians, or even some Christians. Second, as a Christian "I" do not have 2000 year old sins to worry about, just 49 year old sins, that I've been forgiven for, and a future to live better by, not a past to regret and look back on all the time.

Finally, most of us do not have the time or energy to take on the responsibility for the actions of those gone before us, and the common sense not even to try.

Anyone who burns recorded knowledge because it offends them or as an act of vengeance on those they are offended by, is an idiot, self-centered, and a fool.
 
First of all "we" Christians do not include all Christians, or even some Christians. Second, as a Christian "I" do not have 2000 year old sins to worry about, just 49 year old sins, that I've been forgiven for, and a future to live better by, not a past to regret and look back on all the time.

Finally, most of us do not have the time or energy to take on the responsibility for the actions of those gone before us, and the common sense not even to try.
Nor do Muslims have the time or the energy to fight off the idiocy of a miniscule minority.

Nor do Radical Terrorist suicide bombers include all Muslims. There are 1.6 billion muslims...1/100 of 1% is 160,000 muslims and odds are that or less is the number that are willing to martyr themselves for their fanatacism which is patently NOT Muslim.

Figure it out...the US has 1% of our adults in prison. ONE PERCENT....and we are talking maybe, maybe 1/100 of 1% of Muslims having an issue...

the thread has merit.... we all need to take the log out of our own eye before we complain about the stick in another....

9/11 buy a Koran day and read it!
 
Nor do Muslims have the time or the energy to fight off the idiocy of a miniscule minority.

Nor do Radical Terrorist suicide bombers include all Muslims. There are 1.6 billion muslims...1/100 of 1% is 160,000 muslims and odds are that or less is the number that are willing to martyr themselves for their fanatacism which is patently NOT Muslim.

Figure it out...the US has 1% of our adults in prison. ONE PERCENT....and we are talking maybe, maybe 1/100 of 1% of Muslims having an issue...

the thread has merit.... we all need to take the log out of our own eye before we complain about the stick in another....

9/11 buy a Koran day and read it!
Time will tell if your thought is correct.

On the other hand I don't have time for any of the world's melodrama unfolding. Reminds me of those Soap-operas...
 
Wil, I assume you have read the entire Qu'ran then? Because, seems to me it would be a little silly to promote something you haven't read yourself.
I have, and it's a long read.
 

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Question of interest for you?

Why do you have "Illiterate Russian" listed as your location?:)
 
lol a little off topic but, I used it to make my posts look a little more pretty/different I guess. It is my name with my Russian friends as I speak their language but am not so good at writing it.

So, you with a 9/11 buy a Qu'ran day....... Seems twisted to me.
 
lol a little off topic but, I used it to make my posts look a little more pretty/different I guess. It is my name with my Russian friends as I speak their language but am not so good at writing it.

So, you with a 9/11 buy a Qu'ran day....... Seems twisted to me.
There is a part of me that wonders, if I understood the inner thinking of someone, then I might have an advantage of making that person into a friend, instead of an enemy. If not, at least I know the weaknesses and strengths...
 
A know thy enemy tactic, pretty much as I thought would be the response lol. I am all for that, or even to find an advantage to make them a friend.... But, I think that date isn't suitable for such a thing.
The 911 thing was Wil's idea. Personally if we'd have taught our children to be curious about others' ways of life while they were young, there might never have been a 911...
 
The 911 thing was Wil's idea. Personally if we'd have taught our children to be curious about others' ways of life while they were young, there might never have been a 911...

You really believe that? You can teach your children only so far, comes to a point they have to let go of your hand and travel the path on their own.... The worst harm can come from the greatest intentions after all, can once they are out there.... It's up to them... And many are there ready to influence.
 
You really believe that? You can teach your children only so far, comes to a point they have to let go of your hand and travel the path on their own.... The worst harm can come from the greatest intentions after all, can once they are out there.... It's up to them... And many are there ready to influence.
You give your children three things: Tools, roots and wings...then pray like hell for the rest of their lives...
 
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