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lover454

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Do you get angry when someone tells you the following:

(1) "Oh your way of doing spells is all wrong - you need to do it this way or it wont work" - you have done it your way and it works

(2) "You are not doing it the right way, it wont work because you are not using the props I say you should" - you dont agree with the props they want to use

(3) "You really need to use props to work your spell" - even if you want to do your spells without props

(4) "You really should do it my way" - their way is right for them but not for you


I get really upset because there is no wrong way and there is no right way. The way to do spells is the way the practitioner feels is the right way.
 
The problem is not doing it this way or that way, the problem is being kind and helpful in pointing out mistakes vs. being confrontive and antagonistic. Oftentimes it is not what we say but how we say it.
 
Many people feel that the only way to a spell is their way. The spells are done by humans (not robots, God, or Angels). So who are we to say the other persons way is the only way to do the spell. You may use a candle for your spell and I may say using computer graphics is the way to go. You way is right for you and my way is right for me. I may say I hop on one foot to do the spell, you may say you hop on two.

There is no way to prove or disprove that the moon has to be aligned a certain way for the spell to work. I could say "Well I did a spell when the moon was full and it worked" but who is to say that if I did the same spell on the day there was no moon my spell wouldnt work without a moon.
 
To Nick: No you have it backwards. I am saying I hate it when people say their way is the only way and no other way is right. What I mean is I will do my spell but someone else will say "Oh you cannot do it that way" - this is what I am talking about, not me telling someone they have to do it my way
 
To Nick: You are welcome. Has that ever happened to you - where you want to do your spell your way and someone says "Why are you doing it that way?"
 
Lover454,

I do not do spells, but I do sometimes have trouble trying to communicate with people. I think a lot of what is happening to you is not about doing spells but about how you communicate with people. I truly believe that if you look for better ways to communicate with people, you will find your quality of life will improve.
 
The rest of us simply remain silent because we don't understand the topic. We make the same protests about established ideology in other religions/belief systems as you have about spells.
 
lover454 said:
(1) "Oh your way of doing spells is all wrong - you need to do it this way or it wont work" - you have done it your way and it works

(2) "You are not doing it the right way, it wont work because you are not using the props I say you should" - you dont agree with the props they want to use

(3) "You really need to use props to work your spell" - even if you want to do your spells without props

(4) "You really should do it my way" - their way is right for them but not for you


I get really upset because there is no wrong way and there is no right way. The way to do spells is the way the practitioner feels is the right way.
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So you list 4 spells for someone to make you angry. Should they use props too, or will the words be enough to make you blow your gasket?
 
to luecy: No I am not listing spells, I am saying these are remarks people may make on how they feel everyone should do their spells even if the person they are making the remarks to do not feel their spells have to be done that way.
 
lover454 said:
to luecy: No I am not listing spells, I am saying these are remarks people may make on how they feel everyone should do their spells even if the person they are making the remarks to do not feel their spells have to be done that way.
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So then you make a distinction between a remark and a spell? Those words are just a remark, but a spell is something more? What more do you think is required for a spell... props?

It sure sounded like what you call a spell. As you believe: Someone makes one of those remarks and it will make you angry, even perhaps against your will.
 
I believe there are tools to address this phenomenon in all traditions...however as a Buddhist...

An old monk and a young monk sat on the shore discussing mantras. The young monk following instructions paddles out to the pond center and sat in the boat reciting his mantras when the old monk interrupted, chastising and criticizing the young monk for improper recitation.

The young monk sighed, stood up and walked...across the water ... to the shore. At which point the old monk realizing his error, promptly apologized and advised the young monk to carry on...

I also found this online and I think it applies to your tradition, if I may (please forgive me if I am in error - I Googled "as above, so below)

"The purpose of all rituals in ceremonial magic is to unite the microcosm with the macrocosm to join God, or gods when invoked, with the human consciousness. When such a supreme union is achieved the subject and object becomes one."

Nonetheless it looks like there are critics in all religions and traditions and perhaps it is wise for us to ignore another person's opinion of our spiritual bond/relationships....?

It is wise of course for others to study their own traditions and actually *realize* this and *not* to comment - but you know - those sorts of miracles don't seem to happen... :)

Hope this helps you reconcile the haters ... or as Kris Kristofferson once said to Sinead O'Conner as she was being booed off the stage at a concert (after previously ripping up a picture of the Pope on SNL) "Don't let the *******s get you down." I actually think many folks throughout history have used that phrase.... :)

Happy Friday!

~B

<peering out the window into the mountain lake mist....and happy there are no gorillas...>



 
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