Re: Was JESUS the only heavenly being to incarnate into the human community from heav
I do smile when people assume that things they don't understand are necessarily illogical because they don't understand them ...
You have mistaken logic and understanding... I understand fine, and thus know it cannot be distilled into logical form with anything resembling accuracy. It is just your mind making sense in its limited way, and thus your understanding is going to be limited.
Ah, the 'what came before God' question.
Your question comes from what you would describe as an unenlightened dualist outlook.
There is no 'before' or 'after' in God, nor was there a 'before' or 'after' this Cosmos ... so the question doesn't apply.
Yet the Son has been begotten by the Father, both are one God though... explain.
The one question science will never be able to answer is 'why is there anything at all?'
For myself, I have an answer that suits me, that is reasonable, rational, and logical, being founded on my understanding of the Blessed Trinity ... suffice to say therefore, I could not begin to begin explaining that to you" for reasons that are evident from prior discussion — you're asking for the meat when you're not weaned off the milk, and you can't even digest that!
Why is this answer necessary at all to arrive at? It is impossible to know for certain, and more to the point, it is irrelevant to anything meaningful on the spiritual path.
I don't know what definition of deity you're assuming, but mine places the divine outside of any spatiotemporal condition ...
Then your God is even less infinite...
God bored in heaven? That's just silly.
Well then it seems even the Christians cannot answer why everything has occurred, except for a being with no beginning suddenly saying a word for no apparent reason. In the Bible is says he wished to be loved, but why if he was already content? If he was not content, I would recommend your God send for Buddha to come and help him.
Again, 'one' when speaking of the divine can only be analogous, as 'one' as you see it implies number/multiplicity and your into spatiotemporality again.
You do not understand, I know God, I can make the same statement Jesus has made "I and God are one". In reality, this statement merely shows your own lack of ability to answer.
True ... but then we are but human, after all, and if we were to stop asking questions, we'd have never climbed down from the trees.
lol... so now you're telling us monkeys think? How will they ask the question without language?
Blessed are they who just get on with it ... but not blessed are they who bury their talents in a field.
This for me appears to be an admittance that you actually know nothing at all outside what your organization has provided.
It is of course part of the draw of Christianity, you get to be utterly lazy. You simply do your obligation to humanity and you think this gets you into heaven, it is what you should be doing anyway to show gratitude for the life you have been given but you want a reward for it - they provide infinite pleasure in heaven. In return, you don't actually have to do anything, you do not even believe you have the potential to be another Christ within you. He has already done everything necessary, why see your own potential first hand?
There is no other faith which is so utterly removed from the very foundation of religion: mysticism, the core to every faith. You have successfully gotten rid of the mystic groups that sprung up around Christ, so now the Vatican is free to enslave human kind and they did a very good job of that for some 17-18 hundred years.
I have no problem with Jesus, I know him personally and love him dearly, I have a huge problem with the religion of Paul though.
