Michael Voris

[radarmark]

You are merely avoiding the issue, or are you willing to admit you were wrong or your sources were wrong?

To wit, two more things: by your previous comments a Semite cammot be anti-Semitic, so how can Josephus be the origin of anti-Semitism? Two, if lands and peoples that were subjected by the Romans were misogynists and anti-Semites to begin with (that is if you cannot proove your claim that misogyny and ant-semitism did not predate Josephus) what matter what the official Roman stand?

Pax et amore omnia vincunt!

 

[Divos]

Josephus is named FLAVIUS TITUS Josephus, he acquired Those Roman Titles, he disconnected himself from the Jews, he is Anti-Torah/Jew (if a real Jew at all)

In Fact, this could be Reverse, what if FLAVIUS TITUS acquired the named "Josephus", in order for him to be Anonymous among the Jews.


The term "Flavius" is a Royal Praenomen, was Josephus a Royal, what right did he have to acquire such title

His he one of these
Template:Flavian tree - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Josephus be the origin of anti-Semitism?

Antisemitism is a modern Concept, I am taking about the Judiac Ideology, which was HATED

 

[radarmark]

Okay, Josephus was not a Jew but a Roman. Anti-semitism, as used in English includes your use (anti Judiac Ideology or, as most of us would say, religion).

Josephus was adopted by Vespasian (Roman Commander who captured him), hence allowed to use the family name Flavius and added Titus after Titus, Vespasian's son (Titus Falvius). Nowhere does he claim he was Royal or Roman (in "The Jewish War" he introduces himself as "Joseph ben Matityahu", which kind-sorta leads me to believe he was a Jew.

In addition, he defends the Jews in "Jewish Antiquities" and "Against Apion" (the first written because the Romans wanted to know more about the Jews and the second to counter the anti-Semitism of Apion".

In addition to the addition he kept marrying Jewish women and his children (Flavius Hycanus, Flavius Justus, and Flavius Simodines Agrippa) are considered Jews by Roman contemporaries.

Methinks you are again mistaken.

Pax et amore omnia vincunt.

 

[Divos]

Okay, Josephus was not a Jew but a Roman. Anti-semitism, as used in English includes your use (anti Judiac Ideology or, as most of us would say, religion).

Josephus was adopted by Vespasian (Roman Commander who captured him), hence allowed to use the family name Flavius and added Titus after Titus, Vespasian's son (Titus Falvius). Nowhere does he claim he was Royal or Roman (in "The Jewish War" he introduces himself as "Joseph ben Matityahu", which kind-sorta leads me to believe he was a Jew.

In addition, he defends the Jews in "Jewish Antiquities" and "Against Apion" (the first written because the Romans wanted to know more about the Jews and the second to counter the anti-Semitism of Apion".

In addition to the addition he kept marrying Jewish women and his children (Flavius Hycanus, Flavius Justus, and Flavius Simodines Agrippa) are considered Jews by Roman contemporaries.

Methinks you are again mistaken.

Pax et amore omnia vincunt.

in "The Jewish War" he introduces himself as "Joseph ben Matityahu", which kind-sorta leads me to believe he was a Jew.

(He Characterized himself)

Josephus claimed Decent from the royal family of King Herod and Hycanus, hence Flavius Hycanus, Flavius Justus (Justin Martyr) ect.

Joseph bar Matthew [Greek: Matthias], as Josephus was originally known, was born soon after Caligula became Roman emperor (37/38 CE). He was one of two sons of a Jewish priest who claimed descent from the Hasmonean family of priests

Josephus' Lineage

Was Josephus (King of Jews?), its like a big Jigsaw

 

[radarmark]

So you agree, he never renounced Judaism and was born a Jew?

 

[Divos]

So you agree, he never renounced Judaism and was born a Jew?

He was Half Jew, because he has descent from Judeans, does not make him a follower of Judaism.

Only Half Jew, he indeed wanted Jerusalem destroyed, He was from Royal Blood, The Religious are Royal servants

Josephus calls himself "Joseph" (as in the father of Jesus), he was also a Priest

But the fact of the matter is that the Bible was composed by ancient royals and the family line of those royals extended back to the author of Genesis. And that author, was a Pharaoh.

The facade of authors speaking forthrightly and honestly. Ancient authors were royals, and yet they could not say so. By necessity, they had to lie about who they were and about much of what they said in their writings. They tried not to lie when they did not have to because they made use of devices such as disclaimers and said truthful things - in deceptive ways! For many hundreds of years, the general public has believed these ancient authors to be who they claimed to be and as if they wrote in an honest fashion.
The facade of many different people writing. Since only the royals were doing the writing and recording of history as well as Biblical texts, it was necessary that they made it appear that more people wrote than actually were...Thus, the authors played many parts and wrote using alias names to accomplish this. Arrius Piso, for example, wrote as Flavius Josephus, as well as Philo of Alexandria in addition to writing Biblical texts!

 

[radarmark]

Wow, again. One could not be a Priest (in Temple times) without being a Jew, and you would not be a Jew unless your Mother was. What you are writing is, how shall I put this? Factually wrong, historically incorrect, logically inconsistent.

If you want to use Josephus as a source, you must accept what he wrote is true, that he was (and remained) a Jew. If you deny that, then anything you state from Josephus is so much fluff.

Just like you unsupported, unsubstantiated claim that misogyny and anti-Semitism began with him. Am I not communicating with you? Put up or shut up. Prove the point or admit your entire house of cards collapses because it's foundation (Josephus wrote the Gospels in some huge anti-Semetic Conspiracy theory only you can see) is specious.

Pax et amore omnia vincunt!