Spiritual Dimensions of Music

Gatekeeper said:
Good questions. I listened and found myself becoming mentally aggressive.
Click to expand...

Gatekeeper said:
In some cases certainly! A person can become aggressive in many ways that have nothing to do with anger, however. When I say aggressive, I mean vigorously energetic.


Seattle asked me about the lyrics and the only lyrics I could actually understand was 100011 - 10101, lol! The music itself provoked a rush of energy I hadn't felt in some time. I enjoyed it! It really got my blood flowing. :D
Click to expand...

Gatekeeper said:
You talking waaaay over my head, seattle! :p I dig good music. The lyrics aren't always something I pay attention to, but the beat, guitar riffs, the overall rhythm of the piece, well .... that's something else. ;)


Roll On Good music - Good lyrics
Click to expand...

I'm still not understanding your reference to mentally aggressive/vigorously energetic with regards to the mental part. Do you mean mentally passive-aggressive, then? :confused: If this music makes you mentally aggressive/vigorously energetic, then why are my questions over your head? :confused:

If you mean emotionally energized, then I can understand.
 
seattlegal said:
I'm still not understanding your reference to mentally aggressive/vigorously energetic with regards to the mental part. Do you mean mentally passive-aggressive, then? :confused: If this music makes you mentally aggressive/vigorously energetic, then why are my questions over your head? :confused:

If you mean emotionally energized, then I can understand.
Click to expand...

You started talking about binary code, ink blots, and such, which I have no clue about. I liked the "music" and it was the "music" that got me mentally aggressive , or rather vigorously energetic. It happens when I listen to more aggressive music.

The opposite happens when I listed to songs such a Roll On. Surely you can see the difference. The lyrics were somewhat difficult to make out, so I payed little attention to them. The meat was in the music itself.
 
GOD=7_4, G-D = "Sol's Rays"

I AM a professional percussionist/drummer. Re: "Spiritual Dimensions of Music", consider that written music is a global phenomenon like our global numerical system. I encourage everyone to know how to read music.

If you know solfegge, note that there is a code to it! G-D (which is how Jews write GOD) is making the 7th letter name into the tonic with the 4th letter name its dominant (GOD=7_4). G is referred to as "Sol" and D is "Ray", hence, G-D = Sol's rays. Worship of the Sun God predated monotheistic religions. Science tells us that Earth receives billions of kilowatt energy from the Sun daily which supports all life on this planet.
 
"...thoughts on music and sound as it pertains to spirit and the cosmos"

What comes to mind is the "music of the spheres"...

Innate rhythm of life...

Sense that every day..every season...every year has a rhythm.

Every heart beat..every breath.. every birth...has a rhythm.

Every pulsing star...every atom has a rhythm.

"Endeavor your utmost to compose beautiful poems to be chanted with heavenly music; thus may their beauty affect the minds and impress the hearts of those who listen."

~ Abdu'l-Baha, Tablets of Abdu'l-Baha v1, p. 59

"As to the wonderful melody whereby thy spirit was revived, verily it is a melody of the melodies of the divine music, which will cause the spirits to ascend unto the Supreme Horizon and will (cause) the mysteries to be unfolded."

~ Abdu'l-Baha, Tablets of Abdu'l-Baha v1, p. 110
 
Before we equally divided the octave C - C1 into 12 equal divisions where every note is slightly out of tune but bearable, the Pythagorean tuning system was used. This tuning system was known in all the ancient civilizations (older than Greece).

It followed that when you used the harmonic overtone series (which I won't go into) you end up creating a 12 note scale by jumping in 5th intervals through many octaves. But what happens is the 5ths remain in tune but all the other intervals spiral either upward or downward depending on direction. Sound/Musiq is not a closed ended circle, rather it is an open ended spiral of Ascension or Declension. This shape aligns perfectly with The Golden Mean / Fibonacci Sequence that pervades all of the Universe's formation in a very Spiritual way.

1=1 1+1=2 1+2=3 2+3=5 3+5=8 5+8=13 etc. -Below Fibonacci Sequence-

images
images
 
Do you think this is where the the idea of dividing circles into 12ths came from? (12 signs of zodiac, 12 hours in day, etc.)
 
Hearing a good song is like smelling something delicious through a window.
 
seattlegal said:
Do you think this is where the the idea of dividing circles into 12ths came from? (12 signs of zodiac, 12 hours in day, etc.)
Click to expand...
Sure is . . . the Sumerians began all that Base 60 stuff, and it is based off of the Golden Mean / Fibonacci Sequence!

Sacred Geometry is the result of primordial vibrations of the objective universe . . . but what are the vibrations of our subjective universe? :confused:
 
Etu Malku said:
Sure is . . . the Sumerians began all that Base 60 stuff, and it is based off of the Golden Mean / Fibonacci Sequence!

Sacred Geometry is the result of primordial vibrations of the objective universe . . . but what are the vibrations of our subjective universe? :confused:
Click to expand...
I cannot speak for everyone, or even myself at all times, but this is the vibration of my subjective universe after being force-fed bad slimy-cad jazz at work for 9 hours straight! :p
[youtube]mZM-d2qD15E[/youtube]

Just watching this video helps me to laugh it off!
 
Etu Malku said:
Sure is . . . the Sumerians began all that Base 60 stuff, and it is based off of the Golden Mean / Fibonacci Sequence!

Sacred Geometry is the result of primordial vibrations of the objective universe . . . but what are the vibrations of our subjective universe? :confused:
Click to expand...

Ooh, now this is getting interesting. I think I'm gonna take a quick comparative look at astrological aspects and music theory! {This could get really complicated really quick!} :eek:

Just a quick check shows a musical root-5th relationship would correspond to 135 degrees in astrology--which is considered to be a troublesome aspect! The infamous "finger of God" astrological aspect would correspond to the root-4th-5th musical relationship! Interesting!
 
seattlegal said:
Ooh, now this is getting interesting. I think I'm gonna take a quick comparative look at astrological aspects and music theory! {This could get really complicated really quick!} :eek:

Just a quick check shows a musical root-5th relationship would correspond to 135 degrees in astrology--which is considered to be a troublesome aspect! The infamous "finger of God" astrological aspect would correspond to the root-4th-5th musical relationship! Interesting!
Click to expand...

**doh!** I meant "Finger of Fate" aspect, not "finger of God." :eek:
 
seattlegal said:
Ooh, now this is getting interesting. I think I'm gonna take a quick comparative look at astrological aspects and music theory! {This could get really complicated really quick!} :eek:

Just a quick check shows a musical root-5th relationship would correspond to 135 degrees in astrology--which is considered to be a troublesome aspect! The infamous "finger of God" astrological aspect would correspond to the root-4th-5th musical relationship! Interesting!
Click to expand...

Oh gee whiz! I meant 150 degrees, not 135! *doh*

{Methinks half my brain is calculating/translating geometry language in terms of 8ths rather than 12ths! oops!}
 
Do go on (Dogon?) . . . ughh, now you got me doing it!
I have some cool musical / astrological relationships at home in my library, I'll dig 'em out when I get back.
 
It might take me a while to get orientated comparing music theory and astrology. (You've got your musical illustrations going clockwise, while astrological horoscopes are depicted progressing counter-clockwise, etc. It's nice how you have the 4ths and 5th drawn in on your even temperment illustration, which easily depicts the yod/finger of fate/finger of god astrological aspect. {I have a new appreciation for this aspect now!})

Now I have to decide if I want to keep the musical progression going clockwise and the astrological progression going counter-clockwise, or change them so they go the same direction. :p

Like I wrote earlier, this could get quite complicated quite quickly. :eek:
 
seattlegal said:
It might take me a while to get orientated comparing music theory and astrology. (You've got your musical illustrations going clockwise, while astrological horoscopes are depicted progressing counter-clockwise, etc. It's nice how you have the 4ths and 5th drawn in on your even temperment illustration, which easily depicts the yod/finger of fate/finger of god astrological aspect. {I have a new appreciation for this aspect now!})

Now I have to decide if I want to keep the musical progression going clockwise and the astrological progression going counter-clockwise, or change them so they go the same direction. :p

Like I wrote earlier, this could get quite complicated quite quickly. :eek:
Click to expand...
Actually the diagrams are misleading, the 5ths spiral to the right and up, while the 4ths to the left and down . . .
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top