Shame On the West: The Irano-Afghans are Aryans not Arabs

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Time and time again I have taken it upon myself to interview westerners on the ethnic identity of the Irano-Afghans. The first question I ask most people is: what language do the Afghans or Iranians or Persians speak and and 100% of the time the answer I get is Arabic. This is an extreme failure on the part of western educators and the media. I thought that one of the main problems in countries like Afghanistan is the lack of education, but what my statistical correlations tell me is that the problem is not the lack of education in Afghanistan, but the lack of education in the west. The Irano-Afghans were born with the Aryan cultural identity. Cultural identity is not something that can be ignored. But in the west the Aryan cultural identity of the Irano-Afghans is being suppressed. Because exposing students to the pre-Islamic religious heritage of the Irano-Afghans is a problem for Jews, Christians, and Muslims. If it wasn't EVERYONE would know about Zarathushtra and the Irano-Aryans like they know about the Egyptian or Greek mythological heritage. The reason that western students don't know about Zarathushtra and the Irano-Aryans can only come down to one thing. A prejudice and even racism. Ultimately its just ridiculous how for example students are taught that the English language is made up of Greek and Italic loans, but they don't know that Afghan and Iranian are Aryan languages and that the Zarathusthrian religion is the archetypal monotheistic religion. This ignorance could only lead to trouble. If the United States and the rest of the west was truly a law abiding land people would know about Zarathushtra and the true identity of the Aryan people. If this was truly a law abiding land Judiasm, Christainy, and Islam would not be permitted to exploit Zarathustrian expressions. Not without just compensation to the owners of those expressions.

To prove my point I implore my readers to ask just one random individual what language the Afghans, Iranians, or even the Persians speak. If they get it right then I don't have a point, but if they say Arabic then some serious changes need to made in the west.
 
Afghans, Iranians, and Pashtuns/Pakistanis are not full Indo-Aryans. Indo-Iranians invaded the regions a few millennia ago. There were people already there. They included the Harrapan people, the Dravidians of India, the Caucasians of the Zagros Mountains and upper Mesopotamia. There were Elamites in the southwest of Iran. Ethnic mixing surely occurred. It is unlikely the Indo-Aryans simply massacred all non-Aryans.

Indo-Iranians formed much of the North Indian Subcontinent population and Pakistan. They formed the Achaemenid Persian Empire after the Mede Empire. They were conquered by Macedonians and Greeks under Alexander the Great. Even after the rise of the Parthians and Sassanids, Greek Kingdoms survived for centuries in Bactria and another in current Pakistan.

Arabs conquered the area from Palestine to eastern China, mixing with Indo-Aryan Persians, Pashtuns, Bactrians, Kushans (Tocharians), and Surens. Some Iranians held out in Tabiristan for a century. Then there were invasions of Mongols and later by Timurid Turks, the Guzz Turks, and Seljuk Turks. Even today, Afghanistan has Pashtuns of a mixed Indo-Iranian, Aboriginal, Pakistani, and in the north, Uzbeks, Uigurs, Turkomens, and Kirgiz. Also in the north were Tajikis (Iranian). The Moguls took over with their power centre in Afghanistan/Bactria/and Kushans.

I would say the Afghanis are a highly blended Ethnic mix of Mongrels. They mostly speak an Indo-European or Indo-Aryan set of languages but their DNA is very mixed and blended.

The West could call them Aryans. They are partly Arabic from the days of the Abbasid Caliphate of Bagdad that stitched to India and Turkish areas north of Afghanistan overlapping into Afghanistan. There is also a racial minority in central western Afghanistan. Their name begins with an H., which I forgot. They are distinct linguistically from the other Afghans.
 
Aren't we all originally IndoEuropeans or at least African?
Actually aren't we all Star Dust?
But . . . being in the Christianity forum . . . are we ALL descendants from Adam & Eve (except for me of who is a descendant of Adam and Lilith)
 
sheesh.

If this was truly a law abiding land Judiasm, Christainy, and Islam would not be permitted to exploit Zarathustrian expressions. Not without just compensation to the owners of those expressions.
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i for one would really like to see you sue three religions for "using zarathustrian expressions without permission"! permission from whom? are religious expressions protected under copyright? can i sue the pope for "stealing" the sabbath from the jews?

i agree that most americans don't understand the difference between iranians and arabs, but honestly, does this not all seem a little bit silly to you?
 
Etu Malku said:
Aren't we all originally IndoEuropeans or at least African?
Actually aren't we all Star Dust?
But . . . being in the Christianity forum . . . are we ALL descendants from Adam & Eve (except for me of who is a descendant of Adam and Lilith)
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lol who is Lilith ?
 
Amerigin--the genetic and DNA research fully supports your blending analysis. Cannot tell Parsis (the Indian Zarathustrans) from their Punjabi neighbors. Nor the Yezidis from Palestinians or Jews. Nor the "Indo-Iranians" from "Indo-Aryans" (see R1a1a Y chromosome studies). Genertics show that all Indo-Euorpean speakers are pretty interchangeable, with Kurds, Jews and Palestinians somewhere between Turks and Egyptians.

The entire notion of "Inso-Aryanism" is a little over the edge, scientifically.
 
Correct, humans have been mixing and blending in Africa for at least 200,000 years since achieving sapiens species classification. Those around the Horn of Africa became all living people. All US people are African Americans, pale, brown, or black. I am an African Celt, or African Scot, or African Brit.

Indo-European or Indo-Aryan is a linguistic not a racial or ethnic classification. It is also a family of religions with clear similarities. They include Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, Greek Olympianism, Celtic Druidism, Teutonic Religion, Roman Paganism, AND CHRISTIANITY of the post Constantine-Theodosian alteration. Most have Trinities, virgin born saviours, slain saviours who often rise from the dead.

Hitler was bloody well wrong in assigning Aryan status only to Germans. Of course, he was a nut case. He never realized that he shared common ancestry with Jews, Arabs, Indians, Australian Aborigines, Native Americans, Gypsies, and at least East Africans.


Amergin
 
Etu Malku said:
Aren't we all originally IndoEuropeans or at least African?
Actually aren't we all Star Dust?
But . . . being in the Christianity forum . . . are we ALL descendants from Adam & Eve (except for me of who is a descendant of Adam and Lilith)
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We are made of dust and gases from old massive star supernovae. On a more practical side, we Homo sapiens descended from some single cells who first stuck together with collagen prior to the Ediacaran (at least 700 million years ago) to start the evolution of multicellular animals. In the Cambrian, many orders evolved including Chordates like Pikaia (our remote Cambrian ancestor.)

Our ancestors evolved through millions of fish stages to lobefins to amphibians to reptiles to mammal-like reptiles to monotreme mammals to marsupials and placental animals. There are many yet to be described to the late Cretaceous Carpolestes simpsoni with a five fingered hand and opposable thumb. Then in the late Cretaceous, we were tree dwelling Purgatorius who survived the extinction event that killed off the non-Avian dinosaurs 65 million years ago.

Skipping ahead, we evolved through monkeys, apes, Sahalanthropus (Great Apes and Human ancestor, to Ardipithecus and Chimps. Ardipithecus evolved to Australopithecus, to Homo. Homo habilis is our ancestor who evolved to Homo erectus, to Homo heildebergensis who 350,000 years gave rise to our cousins the Neanderthals. The African Homo sapiens of East Africa gave rise to all of us. All other cousins in the Homo genus (9 species) went extinct but us.


Amergin
 
NiceCupOfTea said:
lol no its not, but i want to know what you think

its a really interesting theory though that Lilth was Adams first wife !
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I think the Lilith myth might have been invented regarding an early Semitic Warlord's wife who "acted too uppity. Eve was invented to represent the submissive and less intelligent view of women present in Semitic Tribes. Lilith may have been the first "feminist." At least many like to think of her as that. Satan was invented later as an import from the Persians and blamed for misleading Lilith. This is, as I understand it, and is not proven fact.

Do you think that the Persian Satan (or his Farsi name of course) replaced the silly and stupid myth of the walking-talking snake of Genesis?

Lilith, Jezebel, Zenobia, HYPATIA of Alexandria, Boadicea, Mabd, Scathach, Cleopatra, Eleanor of Aquitane, Elizabeth I, Catherine the Great, Eudocia (wife of Justinian), Eleanor Roosevelt, Rosa Parks, and Hillary Clinton are my favourite historical women. They were brave enough to challenge the concrete religious brains of my fellow males in history.

Amergin
 
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