How you will recognise God..if you see

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brijesh

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If nobody has introduced you beofore, how you will recognise God if he visits you?? or passes through near by you??

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Intrestingly!!! I am very happy to see that, about 20 peoples have been visited this but non has replied..

If someone will call people to fight in the name of God, thousands of crowed will be gathered but on the very basic there is .........
 
brijesh said:
If nobody has introduced you beofore, how you will recognise God if he visits you?? or passes through near by you??
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"God," my Moslem friends are wont to say, "is closer to you than your jugular vein", but no man can know God, unless God reveal Himself to him.

"I am the good shepherd; and I know mine, and mine know me" (John 10:14) That about sums up my experience.

God bless

Thomas
 
Thomas said:
"God," my Moslem friends are wont to say, "is closer to you than your jugular vein", but no man can know God, unless God reveal Himself to him.

"I am the good shepherd; and I know mine, and mine know me" (John 10:14) That about sums up my experience.

God bless

Thomas
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A helpless God....., who needs to introduce himself. I do not know how to varify god's claim.

Second paragraph belongs to some John 10:14, do not claim your experience...Junk dealer
 
If you meet the Buddha on the street ....kill him.

Look neither high nor low.....we are in the midst.

Hear the cry of a newborn baby? Listen to G!d.

See the concern and love on the Mom's face.....see G!d.

G!d's expression is everywhere, in the dandelion surviving in the crack of the sidewalk, and the wave temporarily rising up out of the ocean saying hello, making a splash, and returning from whence it came.

If you see G!d walking down the street, shaking hands and gathering followers...I wouldn't kill him, but would pray for the folks that fall for it.
 
According to my religion (Islam) if one is looking to "see" God SWT as His creation itself, he/she will not see Him because His creations are not equal to Him. God SWT is above all! However, if you look at the creation as a manifestation of His Power, then you will get to know something about Him.
 
Amica said:
According to my religion (Islam) if one is looking to "see" God SWT as His creation itself, he/she will not see Him because His creations are not equal to Him. God SWT is above all! However, if you look at the creation as a manifestation of His Power, then you will get to know something about Him.
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My religion (RC Christianity) says much the same thing.

God bless,

Thomas
 
wil said:
If you meet the Buddha on the street ....kill him.
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And yet, would you go round killing the hungry, the thirsty, the stranger, the naked, the sick, the prisoner? (cf Matthew 25:35-36), because that's where we meet Christ.

Indeed, according to the Fathers, where your neighbour is, Christ is there also ... so by your logic, kill your neighbour?

God bless,

Thomas
 
Hi Wil —
wil said:
What you have done to the least of these you have done to me ... great contemplation ... leaves us all lacking ...
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I think you've missed the point.

I don't think it's a case of 'lacking', but confusion. You can't apply Buddhist aphorisms to Christianity, or vice versa, and removed from context, they become merely "spiritual soundbites" — really deep, really cool, really meaningful ... but absolutely no use whatsoever.

If you meet an apparent bodhisattva on the road, then OK, appearances can be deceptive. If, however, you meet an actual bodhisattva, and kill him, then you've messed up pretty bad ... (but then, in Buddhism, you know what signs to look for).

As for meeting Christ on the road, then contemplate the meeting detailed in Luke 24:13-35 and, as the tradition has it, you are the other, un-named disciple.

So I would advise you not to employ that aphorism in Christianity — if you meet Christ upon the road ... in fact, in Christianity, if you meet anyone on the road, you meet Christ ...

If you want to discuss how spirits can be deceptive, or rendering unto Caesar, that's another matter, but the 'if you meet' Buddhist aphorism has no place in the Christian hermeneutic.

God bless,

Thomas
 
ah but we meet Christ on the road every day....if we are to only look.

The Christ is in all of us, tis upto us how much we let it shine, and to the degree we let our Christ light shine is the degree we see it in others. Paul indicated I die daily, to the old material self and implored us to put the mind of Christ in our mind, to not just contemplate daily but to live it daily.

Now the Dali Lama says, "You know you are enlightened when everyone you see you see as enlightened." We call it the Christ, he calls it enlightened....knowing oneness with all. If you can't see the Christ in what the Dali Lama says....that has nothing to do with the Dali Lama, nor me.
 
wil said:
ah but we meet Christ on the road every day....if we are to only look.
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But are you going to kill him, as per your advice ... that was my point.

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wil said:
We call it the Christ, he calls it enlightened....knowing oneness with all.
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The old 'all religions say the same thing' thing? No, that's not quite right. It's a quite modern notion, founded on a false sense of sentimental egalitarianism.

Have you ever noticed that the only people who say that are those who really don't know?

God bless

Thomas
 
I dunno THoma, seems to me Yogananda, Ueshiba, Ham Suk Han, AN Whitehead, CT Hartshorne, and Rufus Jones may disagree with you. And they (if anything) are pretty doggone smart.
 
wil said:
ah but we meet Christ on the road every day....if we are to only look.
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Well I just told you that ...

wil said:
The Christ is in all of us, tis up to us how much we let it shine, and to the degree we let our Christ light shine is the degree we see it in others.
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Yes. I know. But that is conditional, as Christ said. Baptism, for a start. And the Gift of the Eucharist.

wil said:
Paul indicated I die daily, to the old material self and implored us to put the mind of Christ in our mind, to not just contemplate daily but to live it daily.
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Yes. I know.

wil said:
Now the Dali Lama says, "You know you are enlightened when everyone you see you see as enlightened."
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Yes. I know. I have experienced that, albeit briefly.

wil said:
We call it the Christ, he calls it enlightened ...
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You do ... I don't. One is one thing, one is qualitatively something else. That the two are the same is an assumption ... one can be enlightened without knowing Christ, there is a hierarchy.

That's not to say there need be difference — but that does not mean pretending the distinctions are not there. There's a wonderful recording of the Dalai Lama talking at the Dominican community at Blackfriars, Oxford on prayer and contemplation.

wil said:
If you can't see the Christ in what the Dali Lama says....that has nothing to do with the Dali Lama, nor me.
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That rather depends upon what the Dali Lama says, doesn't it? There are things he says that flatly contradict what Christ says. Are one or the other wrong? No, it's a matter of perspective.

Buddhism, in all its forms, will always fall short (I think, unless someone can explain how) of the Infinite Subject, especially in the West, where it seems to be regarded more as a philosophy than a religion (or so I am told).

But then I am a theist, so I would say that, wouldn't I?

God bless

Thomas
 
According to the Philosopher Hegue, to know God is to feel Him. And according to Torah in Exodus 33:20, no one can see God and live. Therefore, there is no use for the question of how to recognize God by sight. The only way to recognize God is through the things created. (Psalm 19:1) And the only way to see God and live is by way of dreams and visions. (Num. 12:6)
 
And, of course, the simple fact is no-one will or can recognise God, unless God wills it, so the ball is not really in our court at all.

God bless,

Thomas
 
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