Why do YOU post here?

Well done Thomas. It's no secret that we do not always see eye to eye, but you are a man of your convictions as am I and I truly respect that.
 
Namaste Jesus said:
Sure. It's just that not everyone agrees as to what constitutes being informed and how that applies where matters of faith are concerned.
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Whether or not "everyone agrees" is not the issue; not everyone agrees with the evolution paradigm, but that fact hardly renders Young Earth Creationism and evolution equally legitimate narratives.

Perhaps you and I should discuss Isaiah 7:14 someday. :)
 
Namaste Jesus said:
In this example, all the information known, learned and studied, matters not. A casual reader of the scripture could have easily drawn the same conclusions with no prior spiritual knowledge or training.
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So, because is one case it doesn't matter in all cases it doesn't matter? Seriously?
 
Jayhawker Soule said:
So, because is one case it doesn't matter in all cases it doesn't matter? Seriously?
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I didn't say in every case. That was just an example. There's always exceptions to the rule.

Hey Jay, could I ask something of you? If you're going to quote me, please do so in it's entirety. When you fragment it like that, it tends to distort the point I was trying to make. ;)
 
Jayhawker Soule said:
How have you determined this?
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As I said in the part of my post you chose to omit:

"Is an astute student of the gospel any more informed than say a person who has studied the scripture all of their lives or the person who bases their spiritual conclusions on personal experience?"

In my view the answer is no.
 
Let's try something else.

Would you agree that Young Earth Creationism is a matter of faith?
If so, would you claim that this faith position and the scientific consensus are equally informed?
 
Jayhawker Soule said:
Whether or not "everyone agrees" is not the issue; not everyone agrees with the evolution paradigm, but that fact hardly renders Young Earth Creationism and evolution equally legitimate narratives.

Perhaps you and I should discuss Isaiah 7:14 someday. :)
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I would beg to differ with you there. To those who subscribe to each of the two theories you mention, they're rational is completely legitimate. However, they are not in agreement on what constitutes legitimacy. Their rational for believing as they do is simply not the same.
 
Jayhawker Soule said:
Let's try something else.

Would you agree that Young Earth Creationism is a matter of faith?
If so, would you claim that this faith position and the scientific consensus are equally informed?
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You're probably asking the wrong person, because to me, creation and evolution are the same thing and neither side has it completely right.
 
Actually, I think I'm asking the right person, and the question was not "which is completely right" but, rather, whether the two positions are equally informed.
 
Actually Jay I answered that in #30. As I said there, both see their position as valid, but for different reasons. I would further state that both positions are based on faith. One, faith in the scripture, the other faith in known science. In that respect they're both equally informed, but using different criteria to draw their conclusions. As I've said, I do not completely agree with either side.

All of this has been discussed in depth on previous threads and has nothing whatsoever to do with the theme of this thread.
 
Gordian Knot said:
Good grief. How did we go from Why we post here to Creationism?!?!?

Better question. How do we get back?
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Good job we're not train conductors. Darn train would be forever getting derailed!

Let be see if I can right it again. I post to exchange ideas, but have little interest in pointless arguments.
 
Well to be fair sometimes going off the track does lead to some interesting comments indeed. Like you said though, creationism has been discussed many other places and has no real place in this thread.

As for conductors. The train keeps going off the track because we don't have one! Anyone willing to apply for the job? No pay. No power. No benefits. In other words just like being a Walmart employee.
 
Thomas said:
I don't really know much about your synthesis of Hindu and Christian thought, but I do find massive (and telling) correspondences between the two traditions but also, it seems to me, irreconcilable differences.

The 'stumbling block' for me is that the Christian notion of 'the person' as an integral spiritual entity seems incompatible with the idea of reincarnation that is commonly espoused, and in which 'the person' becomes ephemeral and disposable, whilst simultaneously culpable for actions that are not his or her own.
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Many Hindus would agree with you. Rāmānuja defined each human soul as real, unique, eternal, indivisible, intelligent, and self-aware. God is the ground of their being, supplies them with bodies, and gives them freedom of action. I doubt if you'd disagree much with him.

Of course, there is a tendency in the West to identify Hinduism with the teachings of Śaṁkara. In practice, I suspect that most Hinduis are no more interested in philosophers than most Christians and, if they did read his writings, would take them as irreligious.

To get back on topic, I'm not sure why I post, not that I do very much. I suppose it's because the internet is one of the few places where religious discussion is found.
 
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