Miracles

What I have said earlier...

Yogeshvara, Lord of Unity.
He is Adi Yogi, First Union.
The Yogi cannot be other.
How to resonate with that?

Seeing this, I call myself Shiva.

I cannot imagine separation.

To make levels of unity is rank stupidity, sorry.

Please, don't believe me, just drop all beliefs!

What remains?
 
basmonahan said:
Woah, how can you simply say Jesus was resurrected using the chakras and then not go into a severely intricate explanation, and instead link to the Wikipedia entry?
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chakras are points in the body that has access to your soul and spirit. These points open up when resurrection occurs making your body and soul and spirit one.
 
donnann said:
chakras are points in the body that has access to your soul and spirit. These points open up when resurrection occurs making your body and soul and spirit one.
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NO!!!

Chakras are centers of energy in the form.

Controlling them brings you into control of the form.

Most are slaves to the form.
 
When they open, it is amazing, don't get me wrong.

They are not the point.
 
For me, that is the BEGINNING of genuine spirituality.

Before that, you have no clue, just sort of stabbing in the dark, going with whatever seems to make the most sense...

Now you have a clue, now you can integrate, you understand.

Before that, pretty much everything is irrelevant.

Just a few needles in a haystack of nonsense.
 
You have managed to post a lot without anyone bothering to respond to you. But here is my response. Have you for a moment considered that you are just plain, flat WRONG? How can you be so sure that it is not you who spews utter bullshit? Hey, do not respond because I am asking this as rhetorical, I do not give a rat's ass, really. Whatever floats your boat, man!
SatyamAbhidi said:
For me, that is the BEGINNING of genuine spirituality.

Before that, you have no clue, just sort of stabbing in the dark, going with whatever seems to make the most sense...

Now you have a clue, now you can integrate, you understand.

Before that, pretty much everything is irrelevant.

Just a few needles in a haystack of nonsense.
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Hermes said:
Hey, do not respond because I am asking this as rhetorical, I do not give a rat's ass, really. Whatever floats your boat, man!
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I thought he didn't give a rats ass...that his boat had already sailed and all his posts are rhetorical?

I think when you blather on, damn the torpedoes full speed ahead and verbally spew all over folks they don't read anything... (or so folks have told me regarding my word diarrhea sometimes)

Seriously there are some folks around that I feel have great things to say, but their post length, writing style, or sheer volume of posts automatically puts my brain on skim.
 
Hermes, Satyammering has Zero interest in what anyone else has to say. It is atypical of me to mock others on any forum. There have been plenty of pretenders to the All Knowledge, and most of them are strident. But never have I seen someone as obnoxious about it as this dude. I'm just glad he has moved on to annoy somebody else!
 
Back to the OP. Personally I am wary of modern tendencies to attempt to mix and match beliefs from differing theologies. Chakras, as has been mentioned, is not a Christian concept.

Mostly it is an honest attempt to bring differing religious philosophies together under one roof. Which itself springs from the concept that all religions really say the same thing if one digs down far enough.

Now that may or may not be true. Even if it is though, the paths of different religions are often quite different, and it is my personal belief that crunching different religious philosophies together does a disservice to both, no matter how well intended.
 
DA,

I enjoy taking my favorite tastes and combining them in a fusion....

Spanish rice omelettes.... roasted veggie burritos..... peanut butter and banana smoothies.... eggnog and kaluah milkshakes...

I take okra and peas out of any recipe... they aren't for me. I am not obligated to eat them. I don't eat veal or turkey or pork, but will take in what gets in front of my gun.

I like less what has been created and fed by corporations and machines and prefer that which has lived wild and/or raised by a friend who used grain and grass and not growth hormones and chemicals.

The above applies to what goes in my mouth and my mind. I stay away from that which makes me gag and wretch.
 
Devils' Advocate said:
Back to the OP. Personally I am wary of modern tendencies to attempt to mix and match beliefs from differing theologies. Chakras, as has been mentioned, is not a Christian concept.

Mostly it is an honest attempt to bring differing religious philosophies together under one roof. Which itself springs from the concept that all religions really say the same thing if one digs down far enough.

Now that may or may not be true. Even if it is though, the paths of different religions are often quite different, and it is my personal belief that crunching different religious philosophies together does a disservice to both, no matter how well intended.
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I am of the same opinion, speaking as a Hindu. Generally each faith loses something in the process, or the individuals don't really know what they think, as there are conflicting beliefs, or worse, 2 directly opposing beliefs. Having said that, however, it is a free country, and if anyone wants to give amalgamation a shot, its up to them.

It's also used as a purposeful stepping stone method in deceitful conversion tactics, so for that reason alone I'm wary.
 
I don't eat veal or turkey or pork, but will take in what gets in front of my gun. Wil.

That would include judges, too? Well, Cheney thought so!

Agreed, Senthil, in that people are free to do what they desire, more or less. And if folks want to try the ala carte philosophy to religion, that is their choice. Free to do doesn't necessarily mean 'should do' though.

It comes down to depth of knowledge and experience. It is my opinion that a greater part of the religious in America are what I call 'shallow religious'. They go thru the motions they are told to. They accept the teachings they get from the pulpit. And that is about it. Very few desire to take the time to understand on a deeper level.

This makes for bad religion in a single faith. Take this philosophy and start twisting pieces of faiths together, and it compounds the problem. Does it harm anyone in the process? No, I guess not. Usually.

People who do take the time to understand and experience, and then start melding different religions are some of the most wise men I know of. One of the greatest examples of this kind of person alive today is Bill Moyers. Deeply Christian in his faith, yet has spent decades learning about his faith and many, many others.

He is an example of the right way to weave religious philosophies together. In my humble opinion.
 
SatyamAbhidi said:
Miracles are there to point at Shiva.

He is the auspicious one... one coming with signs.

Also "pure", but that isn't what is being talked about here....

People often glorify the miracles, but consider, none of these people are alive today, they still had to die in the end. They are just signs, they have not made a huge difference...

Some of the miracles have metaphoric significance, allowing the blind to see being most obvious. The sick coming the health, yes, spiritual food has kept them nourished, ok. Walking on water is a lesson about faith.

You can take them as literal, yet the earliest Gospels have nothing about it. No one around outside the Gospels we have today has noticed, amazing. Surely some on looker was literate enough to record something about what happened?

They never really happened, they are to make it clear the Father is Shiva.

Same is true about Moses, these are all austerities.
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Wow, this absolutely does not answer my question. How did Jesus resurrect utilizing the chakras?
 
basmonahan said:
Wow, this absolutely does not answer my question. How did Jesus resurrect utilizing the chakras?
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The chakras are energy points in the body that have access to the soul and spirit which are not one with the body. If you were one with your soul and spirit you would be immortal. Those points open up and bring into union the spirit soul and body which is how jesus resurrected.
 
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