What is the problem with Islam?

wil said:
I am that shallow... I am like everyone else and have no knowledge of the unseen.
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Sheesh wil, get a little deeper will you... For heaven sake. Everybody knows the invisible man is invisible... I can only assume he has clothes on, well unless someone tosses flour or something on him... But he can't exist because he's invisible......
 
Richard Pickett said:
Sheesh wil, get a little deeper will you... For heaven sake. Everybody knows the invisible man is invisible... I can only assume he has clothes on, well unless someone tosses flour or something on him... But he can't exist because he's invisible......
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God (Allah) is not a Man. Nor an invisible man.
 
wil said:
The God <which we can't approve exists, also known as> (Allah) is not a Man <in my opinion>. Nor an invisible man.

Belief vs known proven fact.

Darn tricky road this is.
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For just a second, let's assume any Abrahamic text is accurate, My statement would hold true without debate.

Now Since you cannot prove The Creator exists, To what degree of probability would you hold to be likely, or true for that matter. As I've stated, a person looking for doubt will always find it. There is no absolute proof of anything. You believe there is no God, There is no proven fact. Since we are in an Islamic Forum. I think we can safely assume we will say there IS A GOD.

I don't think I'm patient enough to go through your doubts 1 by 1. I wish I could, but I'm probably also correct that you wouldn't have the willingness to listen. Ask over half the world, They all KNOW there is a God. There is no "belief" on that aspect. Each and every one have their set of proofs, Some go very in depth, some rather shallow. One can prove F=m*a in many different ways. The what-ifs make the task very difficult, but that isn't to say noone is able to do so.
 
Richard Pickett said:
Your God (Allah) and my God (I AM)
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Allah, YHWH, I AM, God, The Creator ... different names same entity.

Either way... I'm confused by your posts continuity, but ok... if your point is agreeing with what I wrote I agree too :D
 
wil said:
For some no proof is required
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the Numbers of these types is declining quick.
wil said:
for others no proof is enough
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I call most of these the "Yeah, but's"

The Question is If you fall into either category. (you meaning anyone...) These are both not great people IMO. the blind followers make questioners into skeptics, the "yeah, but's" distract people from legitimate discussions of religion.
 
Richard Pickett said:
Let's face it wil, in todays world it would seem as though Christians and Muslims at least in the secular world have a God with different Modus Operendi.
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Not even.... Maybe the gods they make up do...

But if they are following their books...they are the same abrahamic God... Allah as we are all aware is simply the Arabic spelling/name as yhwh.... Just as God is the English spelling of yhwh...

It is only the disillusioned or uninformed who see it otherwise
 
wil said:
Not even.... Maybe the gods they make up do...

But if they are following their books...they are the same abrahamic God... Allah as we are all aware is simply the Arabic spelling/name as yhwh.... Just as God is the English spelling of yhwh...

It is only the disillusioned or uninformed who see it otherwise
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We all have our opinions on that wil...the way one follows their book seems different from the way the other does, or one faction of the other..
 
Richard Pickett said:
Let's face it wil, in todays world it would seem as though Christians and Muslims at least in the secular world have a God with different Modus Operendi.
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from a theological standpoint I would disagree. From a standpoint of non-textual assumptions... I agree totally. Although I think that if you take the consensus from common Muslims (in other words not the terroristic people who claim Islam) you might find a vastly different view than the one you've expressed here...
 
BigJoeNobody said:
from a theological standpoint I would disagree. From a standpoint of non-textual assumptions... I agree totally. Although I think that if you take the consensus from common Muslims (in other words not the terroristic people who claim Islam) you might find a vastly different view than the one you've expressed here...
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Perhaps you may be correct Joe..
 
Richard Pickett said:
We all have our opinions on that wil...the way one follows their book seems different from the way the other does, or one faction of the other..
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True.... Odds are high if I were to be killed it would be by a Christian...and not a Muslim....the rhetoric today on the US is totally illogical and fear based.
 
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