And whatever a Muslim says is his opinion...it may agree with Islam's opinion, but it is an opinion none the less.
Bill Maher interviews Asra Nomani, activist and author of "Standing Alone in Mecca"
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BigJoeNobody
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I think this would have to be expanded on for the general population here to understand. I will add that my opinion, means nothing to Islam, nor is it representative of Islamic teachings. I am simply not versed enough. Now a Sheik who has studied his whole life about say Inheretence laws will be able to explain the subject quite well and maybe even make some official documentable opinions on that topic, yet may not know enough to comment Officially on say the language studies of Quran.
Craz
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I would think islams opinion is the Quran
...the hadiths and later commentaries... Those are men with agendas trying to convince others they are right... Or to dontheie sorry work for them
...the hadiths and later commentaries... Those are men with agendas trying to convince others they are right... Or to dontheie sorry work for them
You wont find much difference in core issues among Islamic sects. Ahmedis on the other hand, "by definition" arnt muslim. You wont find any sect in Islam that says there are 5 gods, or 6 qurans or alcohol is allowed etc. Minor issues get all the marketing, and people think thats something major
No? You agree with wahabists and salifists?
Why are Sunnis and shias killing each other?
BigJoeNobody
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That there is 1 God, and Prophet Mouhammed (PBUH) is his messenger... Yes... I agree with both. There are other things we all agree on, The Quran is The Word of Allah, and the Angel Jabril (Gabriel) delivered it to Mouhammed (PBUH). All of us also agree that the Jewish and Christian Prophets (PBUTA) are the same prophets of Islam. We all believe Jesus (PBUH) is not Allah in the flesh. We believe in a End of Days and a Judgement day. A Paradise (Heaven) and a Hell. These are very general, almost all groups that associate with Muslims agree on these facts.
Well, as discussed nearly a dozen times that I can remember on this site, They statistically speaking AREN'T. It does happen from time to time, sometimes in wars, sometimes in personal settings. The percentage of people who hate the other within these 2 schools is very small. The percentage that hate each other enough to kill each other... negligible. Much like Christian vs Jewish. It happens about as much... maybe slightly more.
So the Isis and Syrian rebels and Kurdish fighting is not largely on religious lines? Sunni shiia ala?
Craz
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Craz
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You will never convince me that all the Islamic sects are lovey-dovey with each other. The fact that they all have the same Quaran does not seem to unify them.
The sad thing, for me, is that the most peaceful sect I ever came across(Ahmadis) are persecuted by most of the Muslim world.
You say they are not Muslim. I've heard the same said against Shias(by Sunnis) and vice versa.
BigJoeNobody
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Of course they are...but you are saying they aren't one denomination fighting another?
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As I understand it, ISIS is Sunni and when they capture new areas they release any Sunni and execute the Shia. That is most definitely a war between versions of Islam. A war of many other reasons as well; the religious angle can not be ignored though.
BigJoeNobody
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no...
where did you get that information?
This article is a bit old, but it's the only one to list deaths and School in 1 articl... and its TDB... eh...
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/10/07/isis-s-gruesome-muslim-death-toll.html
It does pinpoint the reason ISIS is killing Sunnis in such great numbers, They refuse loyalty to ISIS. ISIS has went as far as to blow up Mosques, Sunni School Mosques. They have targeted Shi'a and Alawite, and Yazidis and Christians. But by numbers killed, Sunni Muslims still top the list. I'm trying to find an article from a few weeks ago that actually had estimated numbers killed in battle and killed by execution. Those numbers are horrifying.
Muslimwoman
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As a Muslim feminist I would suggest she write less and read more. She says women should have a right to an orgasm but fails to mention (perhaps she hasn't read) the Hadith which tell a husband he should not leave the marital bed until his wife is fully satisfied. FGM is cultural and the fact that a husband must satisfy his wife is proof of that, you can't satisfy a woman who has no physical means of being satisfied.
To me she equates mainstream Islam with radical Islam and Islam with cultural beliefs of What Islam is. If I was a liberal Muslim feminist I think I would find someone better to align myself with than a pathological liar like Hirsi Ali.
To me she equates mainstream Islam with radical Islam and Islam with cultural beliefs of What Islam is. If I was a liberal Muslim feminist I think I would find someone better to align myself with than a pathological liar like Hirsi Ali.