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Thomas

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A bit of a misnomer, I'm afraid, but I thought I would post some comments by one of the foremost spokespersons of the Sophia Perennis of the last century, Frithjof Schuon, on two ways of spiritual progression ... the way of Gnosis and the way of Love.

Note: On re-reading, get a bit Catholic towards the end, so you can skip my commentaries in black if you so choose.

The blue is from Frithjof Schuon Language of the Self:

There are various ways of expressing the difference between gnosis and love – or between jnana and bhakti – but here we wish to consider this:

For the volitional or affective man (the bhakta) God is 'He' and the ego is 'I', whereas for the gnostic or intellective man (the jnani) God is 'I' or 'Self' and the ego is 'he' or 'other'.

Guenon spoke about this a great deal, the necessity of the critical distinction between the 'self' and 'Self', one which the uninstructed jnani invariably falls foul of, the confusion of the two. Thus the traditional understanding of reincarnation is confounded by the belief that 'I' (the ego) is re-embodied to continue its journey, burdened (or unburdened) by karma, whereas the reality is that the egoic I is ephemeral and disperses, all that remains is a kind of physical trace of its existence in the world which 'sets the ground' for the next generation. That which goes on is life as such, and transcends all individual markers, and therefore is not susceptible to karmic burden in the way the term is commonly understood.

The majority of men start out from certainty about the ego rather than about the Absolute. Most men are individualists and consequently but little suited to concretely making an abstraction of their empirical 'I,' a process which is an intellectual problem and not a moral one: in other words, few have the gift of impersonal contemplation – for it is of this we are speaking – such as allows God to think in us, if such an expression be permissible ...

The individualist who 'naturally' (egoically) self-identifies as a jnani is actually far less capable of this 'impersonal contemplation' than the bhakta, because a 'natural' disposition to humility and self-efacement is part and parcel of the bhakti disposition.

Having said that, it's notable that works such as 'The Imitation of Christ', once a book second only the the Bible in Christendom, has all but vanished, precisely because contemporary man in the West is convinced that his individuality — the ability to be self-determined, self-directing and thus self-realising — is all-important, whereas the reality is, it is the least important and often the greatest impediment. It is little else than the idolatry of self.

Another example is the vanishing of the psalter (the Book of Psalms and other devotional materials) and the Prayer of Simplicity.


René Guénon spoke about the necessity of the critical distinction between the 'self' and 'Self' a great deal, a problem the uninstructed jnani invariably falls foul of; the confusion of the two. Thus the traditional understanding of reincarnation is confounded by the belief that 'I' (the ego) is re-embodied to continue its journey, burdened (or unburdened) by karma, whereas the reality is that the egoic I is ephemeral and disperses, all that remains is a kind of physical trace of its existence in the world which 'sets the ground' for the next generation. That which goes on is life as such, and transcends all individual markers, and therefore is not susceptible to karmic burden in the way the term is commonly understood.


God is 'Light before He is Heat,' if it may be so expressed; 'gnosis precedes love', or rather, 'love follows gnosis', since the latter includes love after its own fashion, whereas love is not other than the beatitude that has 'come forth' from gnosis.

Here, sadly, Schuon lets himself down. This is a statement from the perspective of the jnani. The truth is rather that the 'light' and 'heat' is one, the distinction is in the beholder.

One can love something false, without love ceasing to be what it is; but one cannot “know” the false in a similar way, that is to say knowledge cannot be under illusion as to its object without ceasing to be what it is ...

One can love something false, without love ceasing to be what it is, the error is in the object, not the subject. The jnani is more at risk false knowledge is a subjective error.

The background of the drama of life is, for the bhakta, the “Will of God” and, for the jnana, the nature of things; the accepting of his fate results, for the former, from unconditional love, from “that which must be”; for the latter, acceptance results from discernment of metaphysical necessity, therefore, from “that which is.”

The bhakta accepts all fate as coming from the Beloved ... if he accepts everything out of love of God, he also does so, on this same basis, out of love of his neighbor.

The attitude of the jnani, on the other hand, is an impassability founded upon discernment between the Real and the unreal: “The world is false, Brahma is true”; “That art thou” (Tat Tvam Asi); “All is Atma”; “I am Brahma.”

It should be noted here that in my personal opinion, the Christian Way, the Middle Way or, as it was originally known, The Way, combines the way of Gnosis and the way of Love as one, which one would expect of a God who desires (if we may use that term) the salvation of all men. Thus in the words of Christ can be found, "I am from above, you are from below", the 'I am' sayings, "Before Abraham was, I am", all of which say the same as the quotes above.

Events of life arise, as do all phenomena, out of the indefinitely varying combinations of the three “cosmic qualities” (the gunas: sattva, rajas and tamas); these events therefore cannot but be, to the extent that the world is relatively real; but as soon as that relativity is transcended, they cease to exist and then there is no longer a “good” or an “evil,” nor any karmic causation; the plane of the gunas (“simultaneous” qualities) and of karma (made up of “successive” qualities) is as if annihilated in the undifferentiated serenity of Being or of the Self.

Which the Christian jnani defines as 'the Beatific Vision' and the bhakta as "the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding" (Philippians 4:7).

Christianity is the religion of gnosis/agape, of knowledge/love of jnani/bhakti, summed up succinctly in "The world became flesh" (John 1:4). It was something radically new and different, and to interpret it in light of other traditions inevitably leads to misunderstanding. Again it was St Paul who realised quite how profound the whole thing was:
"For both the Jews require signs (bhakti), and the Greeks seek after wisdom (jnana): But we preach Christ crucified, unto the (bhakta) indeed a stumblingblock, and unto the jnani foolishness: But unto them that are called, both bhakta and jnani, Christ the power of God (bhakti/will), and the wisdom of God (jnani/intellect)" (1 Corinthians 1:22-24)
 
Thomas said:
"The world became flesh" (John 1:4).
I do believe you meant "The WORD became flesh (and dwelt among us.)"

I think you have touched on something here. I think a lot gets lost in jargon and lingo, which I sometimes believe is intentional obfuscation...but then I remember the limits of translation, and frankly the limits of words in general. This point shouldn't be considered lightly, because the limitations of language do provide a framework to what you are describing here. Language by its very nature demands intellect.

Perhaps that is where humans diverged from the animals, when we learned to speak. Not that other living things do not communicate, but that humans have a specific, refined, and now codified (written) language, many of them in fact.

I can recall as a child, having a more nuanced and intimate relationship with the natural world around me that slowly dissipated as I grew older. Until now I thought that was an "age" thing, if I gave it any thought at all. Now I'm beginning to wonder if that separation may have more to do with my mind shifting from the "love" aspect of a child, to the "intellect" aspect of an adult?

I've said many times, it is not what we know, it is what we *do* with what we know. This reinforces that to me. Thanks. It isn't what is within our minds that allows us to rejoin the Source, it is what we do to further the cause of the Source. And even now words fail to convey the full, nuanced meaning...
 
I do believe you meant "The WORD became flesh (and dwelt among us.)"
Oops. My bad.

I think you have touched on something here. I think a lot gets lost in jargon and lingo, which I sometimes believe is intentional obfuscation...but then I remember the limits of translation, and frankly the limits of words in general. This point shouldn't be considered lightly, because the limitations of language do provide a framework to what you are describing here. Language by its very nature demands intellect.
And you've touched deeper. I so totally agree.

I've said many times, it is not what we know, it is what we *do* with what we know. This reinforces that to me. Thanks. It isn't what is within our minds that allows us to rejoin the Source, it is what we do to further the cause of the Source. And even now words fail to convey the full, nuanced meaning...
And my thanks to you.
 
I do believe this is a first! In all of our years, I am pressed to think of a conversation that reached agreement so soon!

Glad to see you are still here, Thomas!
 
I think I'd prefer to contrast "head" with "experiential" Knowing about God as opposed to knowing Him through experience in your relationship with Him.
 
Ah, therein I would differ, as experiential knowledge would be heart, not head.

To prove my point, is love something you think or something you experience?
 
... is love something you think or something you experience?

And sometimes what you should do, even if you're not quite feeling it at the exact time, lol ...
 
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Let Atma (my Person) try to bridge a little for Thomas

Father Anthony de Mello said:
"How few understand what love really is,...

...and how it arises in the human heart. It is so frequently equated with good feelings toward others, with benevolence or nonviolence or service. But these things in themselves are not love. Love springs from awareness. It is only inasmuch as you see someone as he or she is really here, and not how they are in your memory or your desire or in your imagination or projection that you can truly love them; otherwise it is not the person that you love but the idea that you have formed of this person, or this person as the object of your desire not as he or she is in themselves.

The first act of love is to see this person or this object, this reality as it truly is. And this involves the enormous discipline of dropping your desires, your prejudices, your memories, your projections, your selective way of looking ...a discipline so great that most people would rather plunge headlong into good actions and service than submit to the burning fire of this asceticism. When you set out to serve someone whom you have not taken the trouble to see, are you meeting that person's need or your own?"

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"You see persons and things not as they are but as you are. If you wish to see them as they are you must attend to your attachments and the fears that your attachments generate. Because when you look at life it is these attachments and fears that will decide what you will notice and what you block out. Whatever you notice then commands your attention. And since your looking has been selective you have an illusory version of the things and people around you. The more you live with this distorted version the more you become convinced that it is the only true picture of the world because your attachments and fears continue to process incoming data in a way that will reinforce your picture."

from The Way to Love--- Father Anthony de Mello (disciple of Ajahn Chah)

Some readings to get head and heart together

http://zugangzureinsicht.org/html/lib/authors/thanissaro/index_en.html said:
Head & Heart Together: Bringing Wisdom to the Brahma-viharas, by Thanissaro Bhikkhu(2009; 8pp./24KB)
Good will, compassion, empathetic joy, and equanimity are all qualities that can be developed with practice. To elevate them fully to the level of brahmavihara, however, requires the hard work of bringing real intelligence to your heart.

Head & Heart Together: Essays on the Buddhist Path

Thirteen essays, including: 'The Lessons of Gratitude', 'No Strings Attached', 'The Power of Judgment', 'Think like a Thief', 'Strength Training for the Mind', 'Mindfulness Defined', 'The Joy of Effort', 'Head & Heart Together', 'The Wisdom of the Ego', 'Ignorance', 'Food for Awakening', 'The Buddha via the Bible', and 'Freedom from Buddha Nature'. [Not available in HTML]
 
Let Atma (my Person) try to bridge a little for Thomas
Some readings to get head and heart together
Thanks, Samana Johann, for these (the essays I will have to find time to read).

But these things in themselves are not love. Love springs from awareness. It is only inasmuch as you see someone as he or she is really here, and not how they are in your memory or your desire or in your imagination or projection that you can truly love them
This is why Meister Eckhart praised detachment above all other virtues, and why the practice of ascesis is central to Christian spiritual development, indeed any tradition's movement along that path. Detachment is simply the western term for mindfulness.

Thanks also because your post led me to the discovery of some spiritual treatises written in the 17th century. The author of the works ascribed to Jean Pierre de Caussade (another Jesuit like Anthony de Mellor) offer contemplations on the process of kenosis 'self emptying', to allow the Divine to enter and thus unite head and heart, a practice we call kenosis (self emptying) and metanoia (change of heart).

A treatise of his on mindfulness is called "The Sacrament of the Present Moment".
 
I think I'd prefer to contrast "head" with "experiential" Knowing about God as opposed to knowing Him through experience in your relationship with Him.

On the other hand, I would prefer to contrast "head" with walking by sight aka understanding of the way we walk through life. And "heart" I would contrast with faith which requires no knowledge of the way we need to walk. My reference for this is to Paul in II Corinthians 5:7.
 
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