A Cup Of Tea
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Ok, I'll switch it. Are there any differences between the two religions?
Which I have yet to come to grips with... especially in conjunction withOf course, in Catholic and Orthodox circles, He is here ...
"...he ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end. ... We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen."
It is the traditional view of Roman Catholics and Orthodox Christians, preserved from the early Church, that the second coming will be a sudden and unmistakable incident, like "a flash of lightning".[Mt 24:27] They hold the general view that Jesus will not spend any time on the earth in ministry or preaching.[14] They also agree that the ministry of the Antichrist will take place right before the Second Coming.[14]
Why?Which I have yet to come to grips with...
Of course, in Catholic and Orthodox circles, He is here ...
really?
LOL, yes ... really. In spirit, obviously ...
I don't get what you're not getting here.God is with us in spirit always. He in us, us in him.
Yes, Orthodox Christians tend to believe that the bread and wine of the Eucharist are literally transformed into the real body and blood of Christ. If I understand correctly, just for the purpose of communion in that moment. I take it as spiritual, they take it as literal. Just a difference in the way we look at it. Amounts to the same thing though and doesn't contradict anything in the creed. The judgment and kingdom of God is still yet to come....That is what I was taking literally from people who literally believe bread and wine....
Well, from my perspective, he has fulfilled the prophecies up to this point and will fulfill the remainder upon his return. That according to scripture will not occur until after the antichrist arrives posing as Jesus.my confusion... Is he here? have the prophecies been fulfilled....
I guess that makes us unorthodox....oops...we already knew that.Well, from my perspective, he has fulfilled the prophecies up to this point and will fulfill the remainder upon his return. That according to scripture will not occur until after the antichrist arrives posing as Jesus.
No clue from this corner.I just want clarity on the belief here - curious. Will the Anti-Christ literally claim to be Jesus - saying "I am Jesus", instead of just being a false Prophet?
I suppose that's a matter of interpretation, but from my perspective I'd say yes, he will claim to be Jesus or at least deny Jesus as the Messiah, claiming the title for himself.I just want clarity on the belief here - curious. Will the Anti-Christ literally claim to be Jesus - saying "I am Jesus", instead of just being a false Prophet?
Probably not a good place to start.Here is the thing... It is my understanding from my Jewish friends...
Quite.In our Christian theology there are also descriptions of what would happen when Jesus returned...and these have not happened.
"And he that shall receive one such little child in my name, receiveth me."(Matthew 18:5)I am told that in orthodox and Catholic circles "He is here"..."
I fail to see why ...I am having one helluva time reconciling all these statements...
I really believe a third grader is hardly capable of heresy.Sorry but this is the exact same reason I left the church in the third grade....that inquiry is heresy.
I think I'm inclined to agree with ACOT that you're given to making sweeping generalisations that rather point to an a prior negative attitude towards the subject.Christianity is based on Judaism...if it weren't the bible would be one third the size and we would have no religious issues in America on homosexuality...(amazingly most Jews have no issues, and Christians use the Jewish portion of our bible to justify their disdain)
Quite, although I think you see the mystical in a more human/rationalist sense than I, but that's by-the-by.As to the mystical... I understand it... and understand the in the midst not to be physical...
Here we get into uncertain ground about what either of us actually mean in what we're saying ... I do not mean that He is there like some shadow puppet master pulling strings or organising events – I do not believe in God as micromanager.but the essence that 'he is with us' behind us, supporting us...
Well, it's literal in the spiritual sense.If you'd plainly say the "He is Here" is not literal but in that sense...
If you mean, is He physically present, walking and talking, then no.But if you are indicating that he has returned... in the sense that most Chrisitan's over here expect him to return I am left confused.
Whew....gad that took a lot.If you mean, is He physically present, walking and talking, then no..