About Homosexuality and Religion

Trailblazer said:
Sex can be just as addicting as gambling or alcohol. If people do not think they are addicted to sex, they should try giving it up and find out what happens. Who do they think they are fooling? Most people argue that people can live without gambling or alcohol but they need sex. I do not agree with that. Nobody needs sex, people want sex. There is a big difference between a need and a want.
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I'm beginning to understand, thanks!

I'm reminded a little bit of acsetic practices, found in many traditions. Nobody needs to sleep in a soft bed, or eat three meals a day. A mat on the floor and no food after noontime, for example, is a Buddhist ascetic practice. And no sex, of course.

Edit: I'm not saying this is what you do.
 
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Cino said:
I'm beginning to understand, thanks!

I'm reminded a little bit of acsetic practices, found in many traditions. Nobody needs to sleep in a soft bed, or eat three meals a day. A mat on the floor and no food after noontime, for example, is a Buddhist ascetic practice. And no sex, of course.
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FYI, Baha'is are not supposed to be ascetic, I just happen to be more like a Buddhist because I believe that sacrifice for God is good for my soul. ;)

Most Baha'is get on my case when I say these things about sex, not that they are self-indulgent, but they are not ascetic either.

There is one Buddhist on the other forum I post on who has a partner but does not have sex, and everyone there thinks we are both strange.
Cino said:
Edit: I'm not saying this is what you do.
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Yes, I know, but I am lucky to get one meal a day because I have no time to eat. I have a nice bed but that is about it for the house.
 
Trailblazer said:
Only for as long as it takes to procreate. ;)
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More power to ya.

I don't need ice cream either, but I like it.

We also don't need religion or belief in G!d, many folks live a full and healthy life without either. All of us could if we wished.

If our ancestors never believed in or worshipped G!d, we'd be here, just like every other species on the planet. Also just like every other species, if our ancestors didn't have sex....we wouldn't be here.
 
wil said:
We also don't need religion or belief in G!d, many folks live a full and healthy life without either. All of us could if we wished.
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Calcutta street beggars? The beautitudes: Blessed are the poor, the meek, the humble.

Someone who doesn't need God, can never know that God is real. But humility is required. Perhaps a person has to lose a lot to need God?
 
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There is only God, imo.
 
I agree, sex is physical and not necessarily spiritual, although within the realm of possibilities. I was hooked on pornography for nearly 40 years; God set me free from my addiction because it was a distraction in my relationship to God.
 
My Christian belief is difficult to comprehend without knowing God through Christ. However, I do not know if a relationship to God is possible through means other than Christianity, I was taught through Christ is the only way to God the Father
 
KnowSelf said:
However, I do not know if a relationship to God is possible through means other than Christianity,
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Of course it is. God meets us where we are and guides us along from there, imo. But first we have to ask. God's angels will not interfere with our free will, imo.
 
RJM Corbet said:
Of course it is. God meets us where we are and guides us along from there, imo.
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Yeah maybe, it hasn't been proven to me yet.

I cannot agree or disagree based on lack of knowledge and experience. I am skeptical of anything outside of my belief until choosing otherwise
 
KnowSelf said:
Yeah maybe, it hasn't been proven to me yet
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Perhaps sometimes God may help me by first making me abandon a lot of material and mental/emotional encumberance, until I am left with only God? Free of material weight.

I cannot take my treasured grand piano through the narrow door. I cannt take it on the aeroplane to freedom. Just a amall bag. Letting go can be quite painful. But I have to ask God to help me. I'll only do that when I realize my own powerlessness?
 
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Perhaps all the stuff I had to let go of will be there waiting for me on the other side of the door, if I want to pick it up and encumber myself again.

It's the hourglass: decrease and then expansion. The horus and the nexus. Again and again. Until perhaps knowing that is key to freedom?

A loop is what I'm in when I get nowhere, though I try.
Like a bee against a window I'll be stuck there till I die.
There is no true horizon where the ocean meets the sky.
I have to climb out of my loop: to leave it I must rise.
Then from beyond its limits I may look back in surprise, to see my loop was never there at all
So, what am I outside?

Lol ...
 
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I ask to know God and that He is with me, I pray for unrestricted love to all that is, I pray for opportunities of service to all, for wisdom and discernment. I grew up Baptist, limited to a singular concept of God and religion. Sadly, limitations remain by modern circumstances
 
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I figure by having abundant love, pretty well covers any situation or circumstances I may be associated with
 
KnowSelf said:
Encumber? please explain
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God or mammon? Because Solomon asked for wisdom instead of wealth, he was given both in great measure? Every religion says material desire is an encumberance. It can be mental stuff. It's a choice? I have to be prepared to give it to God? Its the essence of what sacrifice really means, imo?
KnowSelf said:
I figure by having abundant love, pretty well covers any situation or circumstances I may be associated with
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I know, I blather on, as if I know anything. Sometimes I just react to a comment with my own opinion, that's all. And that's enough of my opinion for now, lol ...
 
If it were not for this forum we would not be utilizing our minds, faith and genuine hospitality in this way. I appreciate your offerings of wit and wisdom! If not for you there would conversation with RJM Corbet as I know him today. Living is Loving, let us all do our part today
 
I usually go to church on Sunday morning at 10.30 am. I nearly always go. But I walked a long way yesterday so I was tired and this morning I only woke up about 10.15am. Too late for church.

As I was boiling the kettle for tea there was a big noise from my boiler, and I found it had started spewing water -- really pouring out water. I switched it off and isolated the water supply and phoned the mechanic.

I spent the rest of the morning drying out the tools and stuff that got soaked. No bad damage.

I got to it within a few seconds because I was home. If I had gone to church, as I nearly always do, my whole house would have been flooded by the time I got back. It would have been a big disaster.

I ask God to guide me all the time. I know my guardian angel was looking after me today.

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No hot water for a few days, until the mechanic gets the parts, lol
 
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Moments as this are God moments. I'm glad it worked out for you. If the event had gone differently God would have revealed Himself differently because circumstances are different.
 
What are your church services like? My church My church opens with organ music then announcements and During the first hymn the choir made their way to the front of the church the hymn finishes and the pastor leads the church in the Lord's Prayer.

Next is praises and concerns for prayer, then the sermon, the offering and final hymn. My pastor was a former missionary in Venezuela.

Hi RJM are accepting private conversations?
 
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