The highest and most intelligent form of life in the entire universe, unless we find superior aliens. Because there is no higher divine intelligence. This is the atheist conclusion?Is man higher?
Offered?Our continual f'ing up the life we are offered!
There is no higher divine intelligence than man?The highest and most intelligent form of life in the entire universe, unless we find superior aliens. Because there is no higher divine intelligence. This is the atheist conclusion?
Unless we encounter material aliens superior to us, man is the highest-end material intelligence the universe has produced? There is no evidence of other material life forms. The possibility of non-terrestrial material life in the universe is purely based on man's assumption that 'we can't be alone'There is no higher divine intelligence than man?
There is zero other reason to assume that any higher material intelligence than man exists
That is why I'm qualifying material life forms. Anything else requires disembodied intelligence. Materialists reject this possibility, assuming consciousness and intelligence are an emergent product of material brain activity?Well then there is zero reason not to believe other intelligent life forms exist.
Afterlife...lol...the perverbial carrot to your justice/morality stick!
Justice? Life is. Volcanoes blow up...
As RJ posits...why just man?
Don't dolphins and whales and trees and jellyfish and viruses deserve an afterlife too?
Oh does that sound silly? Yes...yes it does.
That is why I'm qualifying material life forms. Anything else requires disembodied intelligence. Materialists reject this possibility, assuming consciousness and intelligence are an emergent product of material brain activity?
I support this. There is life everywhere -- often far superior to man -- but it is not enveloped by the carbon or silicon material life forms that man is able to recognize.Beings who inhabit those distant luminous bodies are attuned to the elements that have gone into their composition of their respective spheres."
Not just mine but every evolutionary scientist dead or alive. What evidence do you find that is otherwise?
Where do you find consciousness in the objective universe?
Let's take a look at the definition of Consciousness: the state of being awake and aware of one's surroundings.
Where do you find the objective universe to be "awake and aware of its surroundings?"
Thanks for the clarity. Yes consciousness is not contained within the flesh brain.
Lol...that is the motivation for the afterlife!
Our continual f'ing up the life we are offered!
Speaking of evolutionary scientists, I would add evolution only takes us so far. Time for new models since evolution shows space-time isn't fundamental. See Donald Hoffman.
"When you say space-time is doomed, this is a shot to the heart of the whole conceptual framework we've had in science. Not to the scientific method, but to the fundamental ontology . . ."
You can repeat this as many times as you want, you still haven't provided any explanation or actual evidence. Consciousness is evolutionary, it evolved in sentient creatures and reached its zenith, so far, in homo sapiens. Outside of sentient creatures, consciousness doesn't seem to exist anywhere else, and specifically it is not the objective universe. Show me how this vast objective universe exhibits any kind of state of being awake and aware of its surroundings. What we do see the objective universe as is a mechanism of entropy and negentropy, nothing more.As I hinted at before, the transition from particles to stars to minds is proof of consciousness. Well, for me it is obvious. It's like there's some force pulling matter into knowledge of itself
I take my definition from scholars who create these definitions, what else can we do, invent our own definitions? Quale is a much debated concept in philosophical circles, I won't get into that at all. I prefer to use 'subjective universe'.Well, I wouldn't say it is the definition of consciousness, just like I wouldn't say I have provided the definition of justice in its entirety. Consciousness is also awareness of one's subjective realm, not just of one's outside surroundings. That subjective experience is called qualia in philosophical circles. Example: perhaps you look up and see a cloud that reminds you of an elephant. Not only that, but it evokes a memory of an elephant you rode on a trip last year. That entire subjective experience is qualia.
Very romantic statement, however, I Am Not the Universe, I Am a product of Evolution and my Isolate Consciousness.You are the proof.
Say a leader living in the utmost luxury knowingly chooses to send thousands of poor soldiers to their deaths in a battle over a petty issue that could have been avoided. He dies. That is it? Nothing? He vanishes? Eventually what this tyrannical leader has done will be forgotten by posterity. What then for those who try to salvage some meaning by placing it on the memories of future generations that will also fade away? The universe remains indifferent to such suffering? It continues churning out unimaginable inequalities in health, wealth, and so many other areas in its evolutionary trajectory - only to leave those that have been wronged and forgotten unavenged? As if they didn't exist at all? As if the concept of "being wronged" is itself the wrong label?