Nice till you get water and nutrients. You may have pheromones to attract or dispel other organisms, thorns to keep away the attackers, etc. A tree will grow towards light because that is required for photosynthesis and send its roots deeper to get water and nutrients. Simple.That's why I like to ask: What's it like to be a tree? I find this simple question fascinating. What's time and space like from its perspective?
I think it happened many a times. But all did not succeed, only a few did. Mutation is a 'hit and miss' process.The 'impossible' quantum leap from prokaryote bacterial life to eukaryote multi-celled life is quite literally a once ever in the history of the earth occurrence -- it happened ever just once, and never again since.
it's not what biologists say.think it happened many a times. But all did not succeed, only a few did. .
If wind is blowing, it may say 'yes' to your philosophical insights by moving its branches up and down or 'no' by moving its branches to and fro. If the wind is not blowing and if it does not agree to your philosophical insights, it may keep mum by not moving its branches at all.![]()
This is like saying that at one time Adam was the only human male and Eve was the only human female. Science does not accept this. They ssay there were many Adams and many Eves over a huge period of time. Similarly, it cannot be said that it was just one archaen cell and one ancient aerobic bacterium which were the so-to-say father and mother of all life today. There must have been many evolutionary experiments at many places at various times. Life (humans, animals, vegetation) is the sum of all these evolutionary experiments."There are multiple, independent lines of evidence to support the hypothesis that eukaryotes evolved from an endosymbiotic event between an ancient archaean cell and an ancient aerobic bacterium:"
Nope. Science does not agree with you on this one. The astronomically unlikely endosymbiosis between one single archaea and one single bacterium happened only once in the entire history of life on earth. It has never happened again, and from that single new symbiotic cell, all eukaryotes originated, and went on to evolve incredible biological mechanisms like the ATP synthase. Amazing, isn't it?... it cannot be said that it was just one archaen cell and one ancient aerobic bacterium which were the so-to-say father and mother of all life today ...
Surely, vegetation is not inanimate. I said, as someone else in another forum aptly described it, it is reactive because of its metabolism. It is like reflex action in humans. That does not require use of brain.
I still have my doubts about this. I will check. The universe is not that exclusive about things.I'm sure of my ground on this one, Aup
Yeah, vegs. do it this way. And if you talk of human consciousness, that too basically is this, chemical and electrical reaction.Reactive is a better word than inanimate, yet all reactive boils down to is one combination of matter in motion mindlessly responding to another combination of matter in motion.
Yeah, vegs. do it this way. And if you talk of human consciousness, that too basically is this, chemical and electrical reaction.
In what way Aliens could have a different consciousness than ours? I do not get this.
I think perhaps Nick Lane could explain a lot to most people. The jump from prokaryote to eukaryote happened just once, after around 1.5 billion years of prokaryote life -- and in spite of ample opportunity, it has never happened again, with countless zillions of bacteria and archaea swarming everywhere for 2 billion years following the event.I doubt if Nick Lane can tell me anything new about origin of life. I pursue all report on this subject. Our question is about Eubacterial Adam and Eve. Was it just one or it came about in the way humans evolved (i.e., not ascribing origin to just one pair, but each step putting in some change in DNA)?![]()
Did you watch this short video, in the above post?it's not what biologists say.
"There are multiple, independent lines of evidence to support the hypothesis that eukaryotes evolved from an endosymbiotic event between an ancient archaean cell and an ancient aerobic bacterium:"
https://organismalbio.biosci.gatech.edu/biodiversity/eukaryotes-and-their-origins/#:~:text=Mitochondria and the origin of eukaryotes&text=The leading hypothesis, called the,an ancient, aerobic bacterial cell.
It only happened once in the entire history of life on earth, and never happened again after that. It's one of the great mysteries. A virtually impossible event, but it happened, or there'd be no higher life on earth. It's why the chance of higher life on other worlds is regarded as extremely low, although there may be a reasonable chance of bacterial life.
That's why scientists are looking for a better explanation than endosymbiosis for the origin of eukaryotes, but they haven't found one and most agree that a single one-off endosymbiosis 'quantum leap' event is the best explanation
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