Materialism is Dead

[RJM]

I doubt if Nick Lane can tell me anything new about origin of life. I pursue all report on this subject. Our question is about Eubacterial Adam and Eve. Was it just one or it came about in the way humans evolved (i.e., not ascribing origin to just one pair, but each step putting in some change in DNA)?

I think perhaps Nick Lane could explain a lot to most people. The jump from prokaryote to eukaryote happened just once, after around 1.5 billion years of prokaryote life -- and in spite of ample opportunity, it has never happened again, with countless zillions of bacteria and archaea swarming everywhere for 2 billion years following the event.

it's not what biologists say.

"There are multiple, independent lines of evidence to support the hypothesis that eukaryotes evolved from an endosymbiotic event between an ancient archaean cell and an ancient aerobic bacterium:"
https://organismalbio.biosci.gatech.edu/biodiversity/eukaryotes-and-their-origins/#:~:text=Mitochondria and the origin of eukaryotes&text=The leading hypothesis, called the,an ancient, aerobic bacterial cell.

It only happened once in the entire history of life on earth, and never happened again after that. It's one of the great mysteries. A virtually impossible event, but it happened, or there'd be no higher life on earth. It's why the chance of higher life on other worlds is regarded as extremely low, although there may be a reasonable chance of bacterial life.

That's why scientists are looking for a better explanation than endosymbiosis for the origin of eukaryotes, but they haven't found one and most agree that a single one-off endosymbiosis 'quantum leap' event is the best explanation

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Did you watch this short video, in the above post?

Lane is also at the cutting edge of research of origin of life (abiogenesis), but which is a different subject to the later origin of the eukaryotic cell.

I'm sure if you research 'origin of eukaryotes' you will find confirmation of what I've said above. I'm sorry but it has zero to do with abiogenesis or Adam and Eve -- and it's not about DNA or mutation either, so ...

 

[Ahanu]

Well, I do not mind Sci-fi. Enjoyed Star Trek and various books by Sci-fi writers (Gamow, etc.). But now I am past that age. I still do not get what higher consciousness may be.

I can only describe the effects they would have in our world. How can the lower comprehend the higher?

 

[Aupmanyav]

Did you watch this short video, in the above post?

I am sorry, RJM. Due to my hearing problem, I do not watch videos. I will take out my hearing aid and see if the video is clear to me. Just once, that is the problem with me. Was it not a gradual change like it happened for humans?

I can only describe the effects they would have in our world. How can the lower comprehend the higher?

We will think about them (I mean, I may not be there, but our future generations might do that) when we encounter any of them.

 

[RJM]

am sorry, RJM. Due to my hearing problem, I do not watch videos. I will take out my hearing aid and see if the video is clear to me. Just once, that is the problem with me. Was it not a gradual change like it happened for humans?

Oh I understand! I do apologise, Aup. Sorry

 

[RJM]

@Aupmanyav
I sometimes watch and listen to videos and podcasts on my phone, with earphones (earbuds actually) on the bus, but earphones/buds also work with PC or laptop. Earbuds are cheap -- not so much the wireless Bluetooth ones. Some videos come with English subtitles, such as the one I linked earlier, part of the article here:

it's not what biologists say.

"There are multiple, independent lines of evidence to support the hypothesis that eukaryotes evolved from an endosymbiotic event between an ancient archaean cell and an ancient aerobic bacterium:"
https://organismalbio.biosci.gatech.edu/biodiversity/eukaryotes-and-their-origins/#:~:text=Mitochondria and the origin of eukaryotes&text=The leading hypothesis, called the,an ancient, aerobic bacterial cell.

It only happened once in the entire history of life on earth, and never happened again after that. It's one of the great mysteries. A virtually impossible event, but it happened, or there'd be no higher life on earth. It's why the chance of higher life on other worlds is regarded as extremely low, although there may be a reasonable chance of bacterial life.

That's why scientists are looking for a better explanation than endosymbiosis for the origin of eukaryotes, but they haven't found one and most agree that a single one-off endosymbiosis 'quantum leap' event is the best explanation

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There's so much information in video format nowadays. There should be a you tube button for English subtitles ... *

* Go to You Tube Settings > Captions > English sub titles

However I understand it becomes a difficult excercise in speed reading while trying to watch a video at the same time ...

Not ideal