Facts and Opinions

[Thinking required]

For they surely are the burdened, don't you think? And it's our duty, as Christians, to act towards them in the same way He did. They are His children too, as we are.

Take me out of context, that's what people always do with the Bible. I was just making a statement about Jesus not always being just the big loving teddy bear.

 

[Thinking required]

The Trans, the Whores, the Blind and the Beggars, the Sinners and the Alcoholics ... the condemnation is not aimed a them, is it? Read the text. It's aimed at those who judge. Who look to find reason to condemn.

No, the text is not aimed at them per say. Every kind of person will condemned to hell and every kind of person will be in heaven, the only difference that the Bible makes between the two is Jesus.

Matthew 25:32-46 (NASB95)

32 “All the nations will be gathered before Him; and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats;
33 and He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on the left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on His right, ‘Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
35 ‘For I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me something to drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in;
36 naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer Him, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You something to drink?
38 ‘And when did we see You a stranger, and invite You in, or naked, and clothe You?
39 ‘When did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’
40 “The King will answer and say to them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.’
41 “Then He will also say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels;
42 for I was hungry, and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to drink;
43 I was a stranger, and you did not invite Me in; naked, and you did not clothe Me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit Me.’
44 “Then they themselves also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?’
45 “Then He will answer them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’
46 “These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”


New American Standard Bible: 1995 Update (La Habra, CA: The Lockman Foundation, 1995), Mt 25:32–46.

 

[Thomas]

Take me out of context, that's what people always do with the Bible.

Well, I was just reading what the text simply says, I wasn't looking for anything but the words on the oage. He says "But woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites," no less than seven times, which seems to set the context.

I was just making a statement about Jesus not always being just the big loving teddy bear.

Now you're taking me out of context, too!

 

[juantoo3]

nevermind

 

[talib-al-kalim]

There has been some dialogue about facts and opinions here when it comes to Religions. I just thought that I would like to present a clear case about people ignoring facts. Yes, we have talked about facts as maybe being elusive and in many cases, pure facts can be. But let's look as a perfect example going on in American and will be coming to a country near you.
Factual: a male is born with an XY chromosome, females are born with XX chromosome. Any person with any sense understands this to be truth. Yet people are pushing gender reversal on the mob and the mob is buying into it. A male can never be a female and a female can never be a male. But according to a certain group, this can happen and the mob, (educated people who know better) are going right along with it. Of course the "news" media is pushing it all. There are no longer pregnant females, they are pregnant "people". I will leave this at this. Do you get it, intelligent, educated people buying into the lies, teaching our kids these lies and eventually like most lies, they will at some point in time become "truth". That's how it all works. "tell a lie long enough and it becomes truth" every politician knows this, since this is what most of them do to get what they want.

I support your opinion, and I discourage anyone to change gender just because it's always imperfect, just an illusion. I would not punish this though, although it is certainly haram (forbidden), not only discouraged (makruh) in Islam because I reject to judge over others (rather an attitude following Jesus, just to note)

A question on the same reason: How do you/could we explain the virgin birth of Jesus?

 

[talib-al-kalim]

No, the text is not aimed at them per say. Every kind of person will condemned to hell and every kind of person will be in heaven, the only difference that the Bible makes between the two is Jesus.

Matthew 25:32-46 (NASB95)

32 “All the nations will be gathered before Him; and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats;
33 and He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on the left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on His right, ‘Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
35 ‘For I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me something to drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in;
36 naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer Him, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You something to drink?
38 ‘And when did we see You a stranger, and invite You in, or naked, and clothe You?
39 ‘When did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’
40 “The King will answer and say to them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.’
41 “Then He will also say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels;
42 for I was hungry, and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to drink;
43 I was a stranger, and you did not invite Me in; naked, and you did not clothe Me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit Me.’
44 “Then they themselves also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?’
45 “Then He will answer them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’
46 “These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”


New American Standard Bible: 1995 Update (La Habra, CA: The Lockman Foundation, 1995), Mt 25:32–46.

What conclusion do you draw from this concerning the subject you raised?