Does God really exist?

moralorel said:
Seriously? Here are some ideas that were considered "weird" but ended up becoming scientific theory or fact. ..
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Yeah, modern science is nothing but a huge falsehood and those who are involved in it are thugs and liars. Does that Satisfy you?
 
Aupmanyav said:
Question already answered. Make a check on your own.
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Answered incorrectly though. And to answer the forum topic. I believe it exists but only if you understand it to be the same thing I do. Many people have a different explanation for it or idea of it. The one in the books I do not believe exists at all
 
Aupmanyav said:
Yeah, modern science is nothing but a huge falsehood and those who are involved in it are thugs and liars. Does that Satisfy you?
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I refer to this as a nuclear response.

We will just take a 180 degree.shift and run it to its nth degree conclusion which we know for an absolute fact that the person in which we are in discussion we know does not subscribe....but we will insinuate anyway.

Why dude? Have you tired of the discussion? Are you so frustrated you can't respond in the manner in which you normally wish others would?

I tell ya, I slip all the time...often more to do with me than anyone else I can try to place blame on.

I been thinking about starting a thread on this topic just before I clicked here today.

This is my point. I am an atheist...a non believer...although when I logically look at it I am an agnostic...as I am open to proof and should it show up (while I can't see it happening, I am as open to their being a G!d as I am to we are all in a simulation)

While as an atheist leaning agnostic antagonist not unlike our "Bible thumpers" of any religion I preached my bias when encountered by members of another tribe. I would debate (not discuss), berate comments in err (not question) and could easily be driven to setting things up to pointing out fallacies in others belief systems.

But then first do no harm comes to thought.

Folks have a variety of beliefs that I may think are.incorrect, but these beliefs hold a place in their lives that are important to them and their community. If they are doing no harm it is not my job to mess with that.

More importantly it is not right for me to push so hard I yank that rug out from under them with my zealous debating skills, it is not my right to point out every hole in their armor.and leave them without a system that has served.them, without the community and family they prefer....

Not my job because I am not ready, willing, able or capable to fill that void, answer.all.the questions or be there as their faith, belief,.was.for them

I ramble, does.that make any sense?
 
Aupmanyav said:
There are so many pages on this in Wikipedia and elsewhere. The search engines and AI are there. Check with them. I am sort of tired in repeating them.
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That's because there is none. Making me prove your points? That is lazy. Your point has no facts to back it up. Therefore, as you already said, there is no reason for you to believe them.

If you do have empirical evidence of what lies behind the horizon of our universe, I would love to see it.
 
Aupmanyav said:
Yeah, modern science is nothing but a huge falsehood and those who are involved in it are thugs and liars. Does that Satisfy you?
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No. It is just very obvious that weird ideas often become scientific theory and or fact. It is part of having an open mind.
 
Aupmanyav said:
Question already answered. Make a check on your own.
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It was. It was demonstrated quite clearly by you that there is absolutely zero empirical evidence that life nor the universe began on their own. You were unable to show a shred of empirical evidence. It doesn't mean you are wrong about your beliefs. It just means that you aren't holding yourself to the standards that you hold others.
 
wil said:
I am as open to their being a G!d as I am to we are all in a simulation)
If they are doing no harm it is not my job to mess with that.
I ramble, does.that make any sense?
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A God is not necessary for simulation. It can happen just because of energy and atoms. That is Advaita Hinduism that I follow.
IMHO, these thoughts are doing harm. I wish there were more people who lived their religion without trying to impress me with their prophets/sons/messengers/manifestations and their books.
What you say will always make sense. You are a wise person.
 
jesus jr said:
I believe it exists but only if you understand it to be the same thing I do
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Can there be a greatest meaning for God, the creator of all that is seen and unseen?

The religions of the world are like pieces of a jigsaw puzzle, the pieces make little sense when they are scattered. We are all part of a bigger picture. All the diverse pieces of the puzzle make more sense, when they are united and we see the image of God. How can we all be united through the same God, despite our differences?

Whatever our beliefs might be, the same God hears all our prayers, despite our differences. We are all created by the same God.

You will never look into the eyes of anyone, who does not matter to God.

All the land belongs to God, we are all temporary custodians on God’s Earth.

Search for a greatest understanding of God, the creator of all that is seen and unseen. Interfaith relations hang and depend on our understanding of God. We can continue to pray in our own places of worship; and build our own faith communities. Can diverse faith communities also pray together, pray for each other and pray for the needs of our communities, then work together to make stronger kinder communities.

If we see God as the greatest good, should we also strive to be like the God we worship?

Truth is best served when we use it to change ourselves, rather than to use our truth to change others. God is greater than the sum of all the religions of the world. No matter how we juggle our beliefs around, the same God hears all our prayers despite our differences. We are all created by a God who loves and cares for all of us. We serve God in the way we serve all our neighbours, despite our differences. The greatest motivation for religions to work together, is to find a greatest meaning for God.
 
EricPH said:
Can there be a greatest meaning for God, the creator of all that is seen and unseen?

The religions of the world are like pieces of a jigsaw puzzle, the pieces make little sense when they are scattered. We are all part of a bigger picture. All the diverse pieces of the puzzle make more sense, when they are united and we see the image of God. How can we all be united through the same God, despite our differences?

Whatever our beliefs might be, the same God hears all our prayers, despite our differences. We are all created by the same God.

You will never look into the eyes of anyone, who does not matter to God.

All the land belongs to God, we are all temporary custodians on God’s Earth.

Search for a greatest understanding of God, the creator of all that is seen and unseen. Interfaith relations hang and depend on our understanding of God. We can continue to pray in our own places of worship; and build our own faith communities. Can diverse faith communities also pray together, pray for each other and pray for the needs of our communities, then work together to make stronger kinder communities.

If we see God as the greatest good, should we also strive to be like the God we worship?

Truth is best served when we use it to change ourselves, rather than to use our truth to change others. God is greater than the sum of all the religions of the world. No matter how we juggle our beliefs around, the same God hears all our prayers despite our differences. We are all created by a God who loves and cares for all of us. We serve God in the way we serve all our neighbours, despite our differences. The greatest motivation for religions to work together, is to find a greatest meaning for God.
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I thoroughly enjoyed what you wrote and agree with most of it. But the more unified we get and the power that comes from a collective consciousness is not the thing to seek imo. Tower of Babylon shows us this and I believe God was all seeing and knowing and it would be a lonely and boring existence and so he has split into millions of life forms and we have it in us. Also, these are personal beliefs but I love truth seeking and knowledge and the little taste I got from what I believe to be God was so overwhelming and such a small piece of it that I would never want to understand it and would probably die and have to reset if I did
 
EricPH said:
The religions of the world are like pieces of a jigsaw puzzle, the pieces make little sense when they are scattered. We are all part of a bigger picture. All the diverse pieces of the puzzle make more sense, when they are united and we see the image of God. How can we all be united through the same God, despite our differences?
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I tend to think so too.
 
Aupmanyav said:
'Book of fiction' was mentioned by @moralorel in one of his posts. He did not name it. That is why I asked for the name.
@Thomas, you have no need to apologize. Moreover, let us not get into children's games like AI. I do not think AI can give sensible answers.
Scientology is unknown in India, though I saw one try. In India, we have many conjurers (gurus, nearly every tenth person is) and books of fiction.
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I think he later said that he misread something about a title you posted, he thought it was fiction.

Sorry, catching up on older posts I missed before.
 
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