TheLightWithin
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How do you know you cannot take it seriously, if you have not read it?
What is the significance of your chosen name being jesus jr if you do not mind my asking?
Does God really exist?
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What is the significance of your chosen name being jesus jr if you do not mind my asking?
Ya because this book of truth that gets sold to people so hard should have had no contradictions and yet it was flagged with them. I knew it was a scam as a child even I knew the book was full of lies. I still read it now to help understand these lost die hard folk and to relate to them in their own realm but some of it seems accurate and well written but not the important parts imo
Because I believe to be closer to Jesus than anyone I've seen preach about him. Only based on my life and desires and childhood and the fact that I had all the same beliefs as him about God and humanity before even learning about him. And my intentions seem alot more pure and selfless than most people I've met
And yet, had you bothered to look a little deeper, the contradictions are resolved.
In my experience it's usually the literalist who bangs on about contradictions, who read without insight or understanding, and speak about things they clearly have no real understanding of.
Comments like this do no no credit at all ...
So me expressing the truth of my childhood and intuition are comments and deserve no credit despite being truthful?
Please solve one contradicrjon for me if you have the brain capacity and focus to carry on a conversation while staying on topic
OK. What would you say are the key features about Him?
What is it you think everyone else has missed?
Well the are true are far as you are concerned. They're not true to me.
Pick one that you consider really important.
Faithfulservant
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Well depends what Jesus we refer to, the Christians still argue about whether he is the son of God or God himself etc.
Many people missed his main message and tell me he saved them and I need him and speak so many false hoods, can we change the statement i made to God over Jesus? Then it's easier to discuss or answer your question for me
So if I tell you I'm a white male it is not true to you until what? Until you've seen it yourself? Then it becomes true?
And this is supposed to be the contradictions that plague the Bible and the way it describes God, not me
Awesome, did you go through all the people attacking me and tell them the same or is it just one sided attacks allowed.
Not much of an attack to mention doubt on someone's brain capacity, I didn't state he lacked it but made a hypothetical since I try not to assume too much about peoppe I've just met
Well you could be a bot.
Well so far you've given me nothing to work with.
To pray for your enemies and not hate them, forgiveness, love and peace IMO
Here's some blatant contradictions for starters
How could a god who is supposed to embody only good qualities have so much contradiciton written about him.
Why does he hate sin, why does he react impulsively and emotionally based on what humans do when he knows all and sees all. Why give humans a test immediately then punish them for not obeying when we are born curious and God brought up the apples which may have not been eaten if not for his test.
Why does a selfless being demand our loyalty and worship and proof of our love when someone selfless wouldn't want to force us into things for selfish reasons when he can already see how much we love him and need no further proof.
How come he is annoying and demanding and doesn't allow statues or worship of any human because only he is worthy. Why would he want us to be so below his level when every human parent I see want their kids to be better than themselves.
Why say adultery and murder is a sin then God goes and kills more people and animals than anyone. And makes us do his dirty work too. Also why choose Mary to have Jesus if he can create a man like Adam from scratch. Why make a virgin pregnant and why take a married Virgin and force your baby inside and make another man raise your kid and cuck him.
Why does everyone who says they know and love him fear him dearly. Why say we have free will when there clearly isn't. And why not want humans to know what is good or bad and only he decides and we must follow, what if he says all the things he likes is good for his own benefit.
Best yet, why do all the religious preaching community seem to do such a terrible job representing their own gods and act like they are saved by them or close to them, yet so fearful of them. So many out here speaking on gods behalf or acting on gods behalf when from my understanding this should never be done
OK.
Most if not all Christians know that. Whether they live it is another matter.
You come across as quite angry ... I don't read forgiveness nor much love and peace in your posts, that's all.
You come across as quite arrogant and judgy and to try and judge somebody who you barely know seems pretty dumb
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If God(s) exists then it's in total obscurity, with major limitations of power with no ability to intervene.
Defining God is very important to answering the question.
To my mind it makes logical sense that existence is infinite in all directions. Non existence doesn't exist. No one knows how universes generate and become what they are. No one knows if it's all the same or very different in makeup and composition.
The only thing that potentially ties into a God(s) would be consciousness and life.
Who's to say that our existence is the only one?
There are things we will never know nor be able to verify.
There are objective moral facts with regards to virtues and vices. So a moral argument might mean that life is of significance, God or no God. Morality is cause and effect between self and others, others to self, self to self, others to others. Morality is what establishes trustworthiness and deserve among the living. Moral truth is reasonable and based on facts whether there is a God of it or not. No one has ever witnessed an ideal being of perfect character.
The Laws of math and logic and the power of language might suggest there is significance to life and reason.
If one God, why not infinitesimal Gods? Perhaps there's one common truth with many gods.
No one has ever witnessed a supernatural event.
Truth exists, but God(s) of it is a big, fat unknown.
No one knows if life on Earth ends forever and we cease to exist, or somehow carry on.
All anyone can do is wager a bet. It takes courage to face the unknown.
TheLightWithin
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Intriguing.
How do you know? (Any of it)