Does God really exist?

"Well, there is ZERO evidence for this God and a profundity of evidence for our GS/Psyche/Soul working through us."

Waiting still on that evidence.
 
"I believe in a lesser self (this being) and a Greater Self (my Psyche, Soul, Isolate Consciousness, a.k.a. GodSelf)."

Evidence is....
 
"Time is relevant, or rather irrelevant, it really doesn't exist without at least two observers"

Should be easy to prove...
 
"Quantum physicists discovered that physical atoms are made up of vortices of energy that are constantly spinning and vibrating. Matter, at its tiniest observable level, is energy, and >human consciousness is connected to it<, human consciousness can influence its behavior and even re-structure it."

...and your evidence that human consciousness influences its behavior?
 
You stated: "I believe just the opposite, that Consciousness forms to generate Matter. It's a trickle-down concept in that our Soul/Psyche/Self (Isolate Consciousness) exists as a singularity, which places it outside of the objective universe, and upon reflecting on itself a Duality is born, from there the frequencies diminish to the point where they move slow enough to form physical matter.

We physically expire, but our Soul remains. Don't confuse the state of 'unconsciousness' with that of 'no consciousness', they are two different things. A rock has No Consciousness when you are anesthetized you become unconscious. To be conscious of something is to be aware of that something.

Science is 99% sure that we came from the Big Bang, that Evolutionary mechanisms were exploded into position, and we are the biological results of various types of Natural Selection However, in my opinion, Humans/Homosapiens can be guided by their Isolate Consciousness *if they are consciously aware of this) which is why we, as a species, are superior to all other species on our planet. and have survived."

That's a lot of opinion without evidence there.
 
moralorel said:
Here we go again. Whenever I call out your hypocrisy or your empty claims you usually resort to insults, ignore me because you realize you're wrong, tell me to go away (for the same reason) or in one instance you actually admitted error. But let's have a look at some of your statements, shall we?

Quote 1: "On the Western Left Hand Path, there is no external god, no creator of the universe (objective universe), science is proving this day by day. What is misunderstood as GOD is the mythos of a Supreme Being/Absolute/All but in reality this is each of our Greater Self/GodSelf/Psyche/Soul. Not One God but Many."

Prove your statement.

Quote 2:
God Doesn't Exist

If God exists, then God is omnipotent, omniscient, and morally perfect.
If God is omnipotent, then God has the power to eliminate all evil.
If God is omniscient, then God knows when evil exists.
If God is morally perfect, then God has the desire to eliminate all evil.
Evil exists.
If evil exists and God exists, then either God doesn’t have the power to eliminate all evil, or doesn’t know when evil exists or doesn’t have the desire to eliminate all evil. Therefore . . .

God Doesn’t Exist
Once again, do explain. I have seen this logic before. It is quite the strawman and assumption, an assumption with no provided evidence. As Thomas stated, this is a False Dilemna Fallacy.
You explained it with the following:
"Whereas my example only touches on a couple of reasons why God is Impossible, it doesn't make it false."

The concept of 'god' fails in that:
1) There is no evidence of such a god
2) The idea is illogical
3) The preponderance of suffering remains
4) We don’t need an external god
5) Life is better without god

Prove the statements above.
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LOL . . . make me
 
moralorel said:
Another empty claim of yours...

"There is Only Harmony between Polar Extremes"
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e.g. Opposites imply Duality, and Duality is an illusion of objective reality. Darkness isn't the antithesis of Light, nor is it the absence of Light. Instead, Darkness predates Light, serving as the nurturing space where Light takes form. Without Darkness, Light cannot exist; it is the foundation upon which Light unfolds. There is no Duality, there is only the illusion of Duality.
 
moralorel said:
Another quote: "Evolution clearly explains how nothing is 'perfect' and even more so that there is no need for a Creator"

I'm waiting for the evidence for that belief.
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You're a real glutton for punishment I see . . . very well

Show me ONE THING that is Perfect . . . there isn't any


Life is more rational, free, and fulfilling without belief in God or adherence to religion, encouraging others to embrace critical thinking and reject religious control.
  1. Lack of Evidence: Belief in God often lacks proof, relying instead on personal experiences, upbringing, or societal norms. Such anecdotal evidence is deemed insufficient and unrepeatable under scrutiny. No persuasive evidence for God's existence has been presented.
  2. Logical Inconsistencies: Arguments attempting to logically prove God's existence, including those from theologians and philosophers, fail to provide conclusive evidence. At best, they suggest God as a possible explanation but not a definitive truth.
  3. The Problem of Suffering: The existence of unnecessary suffering challenges the notion of a benevolent and loving God. The suffering of innocents, devout believers, and widespread natural and human-made tragedies undermines the concept of an all-good deity.
  4. Lack of Necessity: Humanity does not require God for morality or functioning. Moral codes and societal laws exist independently of religious frameworks. Many thrive and live ethically without religious belief.
  5. Improved Life Without God: Religion often imposes restrictive and harmful practices. A life free from religious constraints allows individuals to live by their own moral judgments, unburdened by outdated or oppressive doctrines.
 
'Amir Alzzalam said:
Where have I used the word 'Saytan'?
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You've used it right on your name plate, it says "Saytanist" though there is a mark over the S and the 2nd a that I don't remember how to duplicate

Here we go I cut and pasted it from right under your name
Šayṭānist

I vaguely thought it might refer to something different than Satanist as such, though I found I had no luck finding anything but regular Satanist come up when I tried to google what Šayṭānist might be.
 
TheLightWithin said:
You've used it right on your name plate, it says "Saytanist" though there is a mark over the S and the 2nd a that I don't remember how to duplicate

Here we go I cut and pasted it from right under your name
Šayṭānist

I vaguely thought it might refer to something different than Satanist as such, though I found I had no luck finding anything but regular Satanist come up when I tried to google what Šayṭānist might be.
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Šayṭānist has no specific meaning other than Satanist, it would however refer to my work with Arabic Majiq (magic) <-- another of my spellings
 
moralorel said:
"Quantum physicists discovered that physical atoms are made up of vortices of energy that are constantly spinning and vibrating. Matter, at its tiniest observable level, is energy, and >human consciousness is connected to it<, human consciousness can influence its behavior and even re-structure it."

...and your evidence that human consciousness influences its behavior?
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The observer effect is a longstanding quantum theory, based on seeing a pattern of quanta (discrete packets or globs of energy? Not sure if a quanta is objective or theoretical only. Photons are objective, as far as I know) acting like particles instead of waves when observed by humans or by human instruments. Suggests that someone believes that human consciousness affects subatomic units,
 
'Amir Alzzalam said:
Šayṭānist has no specific meaning other than Satanist, it would however refer to my work with Arabic Majiq (magic) <-- another of my spellings
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Hm. I figured it was Satanist but I speculated that it was a denomination relevant to Islamic esotericism.
Yes, I've seen the spelling majiq in some places too, if I understand correctly that also refers to the Arabic source.

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Dear @'Amir Alzzalam – When you've quite finished spouting your rebuttals of the belief of others, I do hope you're going to provide bullet-proof evidence to support what you believe in, else this is simply you engaged in an exercise of sour-grapes time-wasting ...
 
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