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When in doubt, revert to dictionary definitions?
What is your definition of energy?
Terrestrial carbon based life, you mean?
Living energy, at the drop of a hat. The planet Earth is a living entity, whatever the dictionary says.
There is life around us all the time. Dimensions interwoven. My Father's house has many mansions.
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wil
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i would have to find your dictionary!
The planet earth is not a dictionary definition of living, it contains life, life lives on it, I did not take you for a Gaya new ager...
Reproduces, has cells, mitochondria, offspring with genetic material?
You are proposing a different definition of life than the conventional...(speaking from someone accused of and known to be unconventional)
Having a common language does benefit us.
Angels, Planet earth itself is life, everything in the universe is life? I need explanation.
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Yes, exactly that. It's the best theory science currently has, and will be replaced if new science supports a different one.
Yes I have, a number of experiences. I don't dismiss them, I entertain parallel explanations since I have no clear way to determine which is more valid.
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I wouldn't dismiss anyone's experience. That's all any of have to go on after all, but as I said earlier, all experiential evidence should be considered dubious.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru.
That brings us to question as to what is reasonable.
Faith, all arguments fail against that, illogical or irrational, is beyond scrutiny.
Use may be, instead.
Is that grammatically correct? A house is a house, how can it have many mansions? Your fathers house can have many rooms.
Brunei Sultan's (Hassanal Bolkiah Muiz'zaddin Wad'daulah) palace has 1,800 rooms.
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Can you link to a more reliable translation?
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You'd have to survey them. I think some people think the beliefs are factual.
Things that we learn as children have a huge effect on our developing brain... and selfhood
I wasn't even exactly raised religious, and I've had a decent amount of education and a pretty good sense that the results of scientific investigation do the best job of explaining the physical reality we all know, yet as to religion I still feel most comfortable somewhere amongst the 3 marginally compatible belief systems of the 3 adults in my household.
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Talking about something else here
The Anthropic Principle
Bingo! Thanks. They just don't get it
It's not about the translation, but about the interpretation of the meaning of the phrase "Be still and know that I am God" in context of psalm 46. Hebrew scholars of the Torah (in this case actually the Writings) have always taken it to be a warning to Israel's enemies not to attack because God protects Israel and they will be routed and defeated.
The 'zen' interpretation may be valid enough for the phrase in English taken out out of context, but it is not the interpretation that Hebrew scholars have always followed.
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There is continuing dispute, for instance, about Paul's experience on the road to Damascus. It can't be resolved except by the effect it had upon him, and the influence on the world since. Hard atheists poo-poo it as schizophrenia or whatever, because of course they must
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'My Father's house has many mansions' means to me that spiritual dimension contains and surrounds and permeates our material dimension of nature but is not contained by it.Is that grammatically correct? A house is a house, how can it have many mansions? Your fathers house can have many rooms.
Brunei Sultan's (Hassanal Bolkiah Muiz'zaddin Wad'daulah) palace has 1,800 rooms
Spirit ‘weaves’ nature. It’s Plato’s cave and all material manifestations are reflections of one spiritual reality.
The I Ching has the perfect polarities of the ‘uncreated world’ permeating the mixed-up polarities of the ‘created world’.*
There may be infinite other dimensions (rooms) within the house of spirit, not just our time/space dimension of nature.
IMO
(*With only the fire/water polarity intact, but shifted from the horizontal in the uncreated world arrangement, to the vertical in the created world arrangement, substituting for the perfect yin/yang vertical polarity in the uncreated arrangement.)
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If we can make falsifiable predictions about them, we can "do science" on them, surely? They must be governed by a set of rules to be predictable, to behave consistently. Just like physics.
And yet reasoned arguments for faith abound.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru.
Aupmanyav
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I have never encountered any. Atheists have not encountered it. Tell us of one.
"Since we do not 'exactly' know how universe came about, therefore, God."
Is that what you mean by a reasoned argument?
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I feel the same way about atheists!
In the end, both are arguing from faith rather than evidence, because the question lies outside the empirical.
No-one so far knows 'exactly' how the universe came about.
God is not about the 'how' of it, but the 'why'.
So the science and the theology walk hand in hard, each addressing their own.
For what it's worth.