Religion as an excuse for war?

[donnann]

I recommend reading War is a Force that Gives Us Meaning by Chris Hedges, it's bout the corrupting aspects of war. It goes on saying that religion often isn't the source of conflict but is used as fuel, among other things.


This is ignorant in my meaning, there has always been borders between people and perhaps always will, it's a common and powerful tool when creating unity within a group to direct and focus it's negative feelings towards another group. And painting the US out to be superior to all others makes me think you should take a vacation sometime, out side the US.

I wasnt referring to any kind of superiority simply that everyone who resides in the whole world ethnically and religiously also reside together in one place so that there is a common thread so why isnt there world peace?

 

[A Cup Of Tea]

I wasnt referring to any kind of superiority simply that everyone who resides in the whole world ethnically and religiously also reside together in one place so that there is a common thread so why isnt there world peace?

Apparently that isn't enough, but I think there could be many reasons, but I don't believe that we are created by perfect beings but has evolved through billions of years through evolution so you and I will probably have little common ground for agreement. But still, I recommend that you read that book, it's just the honest recollections of a war correspondent.

 

[donnann]

Apparently that isn't enough, but I think there could be many reasons, but I don't believe that we are created by perfect beings but has evolved through billions of years through evolution so you and I will probably have little common ground for agreement. But still, I recommend that you read that book, it's just the honest recollections of a war correspondent.

Ill look it up thank you for the bood reference

 

[donnann]

Even from the times when religions were being created, you find that religion and politics went hand in hand..

One side may say they are doing it for religious reasons but it doesnt mean both sides are.

 

[radarmark]

There is a hidden sub-current here. If no one believes war is good and no one wants them and everyone could reside in the ethic and religious spce of Ghandiji, indeed, we would have peace.

But there are really some who think war is good, think of General Boykin and the Neocon nazis who after no WMDs were found in Iraq changed their cry to "we did it to free them". And what about the thousands who died? How were they freed?

But there really are those who want them, think of Usama bin Lauden wanting war with "The Great Satan". Begins it because "me right, have god on my side, you wrong."

But there are those who just want their ethnicity to triumph, think of the three-way ethic troubles in the Former Yugoslavia. Can you tell a Croat from a Serb from a Bosnian racially? Heck, they all speak dang near the same language. But given half a chance the Serbs would still go to Kosovo and Bosnia to "ethnically clense".

But there are still those who use religion as a justification to kill (Ghandiji and Rabin and Sadat) or make war, think of our "GWOT". Both sides think it is religiously based, well aqt least they do in Wahabist and Dominionist circles.

And even if all the buts did not exist, there is still the little matter of greed.

Violence and hatred and war is a natural state for those not in a liberal democratic condition, for as Hobbes stated:

"In such condition, there is no place for industry; because the fruit thereof is uncertain: and consequently no culture of the earth; no navigation, nor use of the commodities that may be imported by sea; no commodious building; no instruments of moving, and removing, such things as require much force; no knowledge of the face of the earth; no account of time; no arts; no letters; no society; and which is worst of all, continual fear, and danger of violent death; and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short."

We must change that.
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