I call the universe the universe, and a rock a rock, a dog a dog, and you Mark...but that doesn't imply that I don't think all of you are expressing G-d...nor you thinking that none of you are...Eudaimonist said:It sure does! Look at your list. If I were to call the universe "Cosmic Consciousness", don't you think that term carries a lot of conceptual baggage? When I think of the universe, I don't think of some conscious megaentity.eudaimonia,Mark