Bandit said:
i disagree. some may live longer today & that is a good thing, but then- people still loved each other & watched out for each other, reguardless of there stink & there lack of knowledge.
buisnesses helped each other & were not out to destroy each other.
i think there was time of real progress in the U.S., but now i see a flipside to it all.
today we still have stink, pollution, just as much disease, hunger & lack knowledge & with all the modern inventions the planet does not look nearly as good as it did then...and the possiblilty of something worse than EVER just waiting to pop out of someones portable lab.
we live in a time of sudden destruction & stress & everything that goes with it.
pretty sad when the childrens worst fear is being bombed by nuclear when in those days it may have been we dont have any milk this week.
but hey that is all just my observation.
I think you're looking to the past with rose tinted glasses Bandit. Business is business regardless of what time frame you are in. When business helps another out it is in the way of profit...or the other is not in competition with that business.
The past was much worse, even my gran called the past 'the bad old days', she looked to the past clearly unlike many of her peers.
Yes we still have war, we still have disease....the organisms that cause disease evolve in order to survive, but to survive they must live off mankind.
We have always lived with the possibility of something terrible happening on a massive scale. Plague, invasion, catastrophies in weather, famine and that's for the western world! Stress is just a new name for worry and much of today's stress we create for ourselves. No, you never heard of stress in olden times because it is a new terminology and everyone has to have it to a certain degree. Do you not think that the young woman who was having her first baby in Victorian times wasn't stressed, stressed whether or not she was going to survive the birth, stressed that she was going to be able to feed and clothe the child?
It was a great deal more than do we have any milk this week in the past.
So progress has slowed...man has stepped back to see the damage he has inflicted upon the environment.As for progress...like everything it has its own rhythm...what is considered real progress - considered the industrial period- commence in Europe in 1750 with the invention of the steam engine. Mechanised industry followed and great expansions followed. But it wasn't a rosy life, it was anything but. In the highly industrialised towns life was appalling for the lower classes and although the rural community had it a little better, it wasn't that much better.
You were lucky to live beyond the age of 5, that's if you got beyond a year old. Women died regularly in child birth, and it was safer not to have a doctor present. There was little policing...it wasn't rosy. Today's society is much safer than it was then despite what the media portrays.
The burning of fossil fuels to produce electricity and to run vehicles of all shapes and sizes has damaged the environment...so electricity isn't so good, is it?
yah. see this is not destroying anything to accomplish something else & as far as i can see electricity is not going to throw us into cave days & it is not causing any enviromental hazards. i think electricity & the way it is today is something we are supposed to have.
the only way that the production of electricity is not going to cause environmental hazards is to produce it by water turbine, wind turbine or solar power. The burning of coal and oil produces masses of CO2, and with coal there are the added pollutants added to the atmosphere. The 'Great Smogs' of London were cause by the burning of coal
http://www.ace.mmu.ac.uk/eae/Air_Quality/Older/Smog.html
So burning coal...any fossil fuel causes a massive environmental impact. Eventually we are going to run out of fossil fuel unless alternatives are found and will have to return to the old ways.
