juantoo3's comments in 'Proofs for God's Non-Existence' thread

[juantoo3]

I am thinking of changing my username...how about "Harry Tich?"

Or maybe "Hairy Tick?" How about "Hurry Tech?"

 

[Kelcie]

Hi Juantoo3,

I hope you will not mind me sharing. Nobody, Christians included, can make a seed grow. That is up to God. If, and I stress the word "if," it is part of our course to tend that seed, then we have opportunity to, as you say, water it.

Yes agreed, we are saying the same thing except I was using metaphors.

OK, so I am clear, "true nature of man?" Do you mean "human nature?" Because, if anything, I see science and logic working specifically, some might even say only, with human nature.

By the "true nature of man" I mean God that dwells within.

I thought about adding a disclaimer earlier

Hehehe

But that inherent meaning is not necessarily God, at least not in the Christian sense.

Indeed! this would be subject to understanding the verse "God is in all things"

I think we add to and take away from, and over time paint Him in our own image, the image we desire Him to be, rather than appreciating Him as He IS. Rough spots, warts and all.

Agreed.

Kelcie

 

[earl]

Juan, this is for you, bud, as well as all those who are "Jung" at heart

Jung was quoted in an interview in 1960 shortly before he died:

interviewer: "Do you believe in God?"
Jung: "Yes...I don't need to believe, I know...my opinion about knowledge of God is an unconventional way of thinking, and I quite understand if it should be suggested that I am no Chrisitian. Yet I think of myself as a Christian since I am entirely based in Christian concepts. I only try to escape their internal contradictions by introducing a more modest attitude, which takes into consideration the immense darkness of the human mind. The Christian idea proves its vitality by a continuous evolution, just like Buddhism....which does not mean I know a certain God, (Zeus, Yahwe, Allah, the trinitarian God, etc.) but rather: I do know that I am confronted with a factor unknown in itself, which I call 'God' in consensu omnium, (consent of everyone), 'quod semper, quod ubique, quod ab omnibus creditur, (what has been believed always, everywhere and by all), I remember Him, I evoke Him, whenever I use His name overcome by anger or by fear, whenever I say involuntarily 'Oh, God.' That happens when I meet somebody or something stronger than myself...This is the name by which I designate all things which cross my willful path...which upset my subjective views, plans, and intentions and which change the course of my life for better or worse." Blessed be all, Earl

 

[juantoo3]

Kindest Regards, Earl!

Thank you for your thoughtful reply, and my apologies for my tardiness in responding. It has been hectic on my homefront.

Your response has given me a new direction to pursue. I had not considered myself a "Jungster," but after looking into some of what he wrote I found a great deal of similar thinking to my own. I still think he was, or at least is interpreted as, being a bit, ummm, "out there" for mainstream thinking regarding spiritual aspects, but the more mundane connections between archeology and mythology and how it relates to modern religious paradigms and moral constructions seems to be right up the same alley I was looking.

An odd coincidence I noted (or "synchronicity" perhaps), is that he died three months to the day before I was born.

Thanks for the tip. I suspect it will be a study that will provide a great deal of insight for me!