Hurrican is God's work

Shelle said:
Personal sexual freedom should be welcomed.
I agree. Sexual emancipation from desire should be welcome and achieved in everyone, so only love blossoms in everyone's heart.

Sexual desire, however, is not freedom at all. Sexual desire turns the beautiful Lucifer-Venus (Light-Love) into the Devil. Sexual desire binds Prometheus to the hard rock of sex where he is tormented endlessly. Sexual desire prompts Psyche to unmask Eros, leading him to flea... :(
 
Peace to All Here--

Amazing discussion.

Several of you here so far have made apologies ahead of time about whatever anyone may find offensive.

So I will join you.

I doubt seriously if any of the disaster victims I or my children have spoken with recently care very much at this particular time what anyone thinks about their sexual habits or how old the earth really is. These are issues that, in time, may return to the forefronts of their minds. Right now, they are interested in feeding and clothing their children (no matter whether anyone else thinks these children were born of sin).

And I think that for now, the main issue at hand for anyone who wishes to speak about God is to (pardon me) put up or shut up.

And please, those of you who sort of know me know that I do not mean any harm here, and tomorrow I will probably worry about what I said, except that I will probably not have much time. I will just give my worry to the One who tells me "He" has already and will always take care of it. If I cannot do this, then the sacrifice I believe in is null and void.

My children are involved in this rescue effort. The real-life stories here are beyond words for me at the moment--and I am not even exactly in the middle of this.

Do I have family members that are affected? Yes. There are members of my family who cannot locate one another. I suppose that this is the wrath of God? If you say so. Better be sure you are right about that, though.

For anyone who believes that Katrina came to "cleanse" the "impure", I invite you to visit the ones you despise. Before you do, remove the tree trunk from your eye--if you do not, I guarantee you, Something Higher (whatever you think It Is or Is Not) will...

With hurricane force, at least.

InLove
 
I saw something yesterday I thought was deeply pleasing.... I have never in my life heard of or experience such selflessness, love and care.. A man who I would say was about as poor as myself, opened his home to a family of eight people he doesn't even know.... He has said they can live with him and his family until their lives are back together and has got their children into the school where his children go.... A man like this I can not help but admire.... that is true beauty... Brought a tear to my eye thinking of the love of this man.... I then felt slight anger... when I put his life compared to say bill gates..... People have so much greed... :(
 
Thank you, Angel-- (tell me someday about why you are the seventeenth?) And welcome to CR.

I don't have much time to post here these days--but I still have a feeling I will as often as I can.

There are so many stories--TRUE ones. My heart is broken and lifted all at once when I hear from the people whose homes are still standing and they have insurance and everything. But most of all, my heart is broken and lifted by those who do not have this and never had. Actually, many had "homes" that, for some reason, the majority of Americans (U.S.) apparently do not consider home, because these homes were not owned by the occupants--only looked after faithfully for years. Whatever they have lost will perhaps be covered by some kind of insurance--and it will go to the landlords.

And then there are those who had nothing at all before this happened. Perhaps, in some round-about way, they will actually get some help.

I would just like to say that if FEMA had not recently undergone reconstruction, being integrated into Homeland Security, then this agency would perhaps have been able to respond more quickly. I noticed that Michael Brown has been sent home to Washington? And is the Coast Guard taking over? Good deal, as far as I can see. I do not think that FEMA should be directed by the federal government, but it should be as it began--an advisory and emergency unit--like maybe a part of the cabinet?

Well--gotta go--sorry if I was harsh before, or if my statements about judging others were self defeating--I cannot really go around judging others for judging others. It is just that the devastation is really so great and people are suffering, and I honestly do not see how anyone can pronounce punishment or damnation without calling upon the same.

I do not mean any offense (I sure get tired of saying that, but I suppose it is worth repeating over and over if it is true).

InPeace,
InLove
 
Heres another theory... Though Im not saying this is what I believe, but can by into, more easily then the old God sent it theory. But maybe just maybe becuase over half the U.S. has thumbed its noses up against God that maybe he has removed his hand of protection away and disasters such as 9/11, or Katrina have hit us like they have. If this is tru their will be more to come. But do I think God purposly sent this? No, I think their is a time for everything. I time to laugh, a time to morn, a time to live, and a time to die. Just like their is a summer, winter, fall, and spring. Sometimes things happen doesnt mean Its Gods fualt, or even mans fualt. But I will say this if one of my kids tells me to stop protecting them and renounce me as their father, I would have to ablidge... That is when they are old enough to make such a desition.
 
Chela said:
There is a reason why Jesus states that all manner of sin shall be forgiven except that which is against the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is sex.
I feel you, and you are on a very strong point, when it comes to a Holy Spirit.
You feel what you say, that is strong connection. Try to understand that
Spirit is not Matter, just like Soul, they are Dimensions.
Your Soul ( just like Everybody elses, identical with everybody else's )
is distance between your first and your last breath.
Spirit is your ( Unique and IMPOSSIBLE to replicate ) vision of that distance.
Holy Spirit is The Truth about that distance. ;)
Holy Spirit is Sex on Spiritual/Mental level, and very soon is going to
Screw billions of minds, faster then you can say "Sex"

Sin is just Metaphor ( Illusion ), and You need to understand, that Jesus was
Limited with use of Dictionary known then. So He didn't have option not to use words such as Sin, Prayer, " my Father in Heaven ", and still ended up
being misunderstud by absolutely Everyone.
Pharisees felt, the Dude is Crazy, and Disciples did not have Clue who Is He,
They only believed.

I am Happily married, but still would love to have spiritual sex with U :p

Laidback Pete
 
God is Everything that have created Everything from Beginning to an End.

Which part of Everything is hard to understand ?

No One will ever know God, therefore it is Illusion trying to find out.
Even if you are lucky that you were chosen to recieve Holy Spirit, (coming
out of your DNA structure), you will not know what is God.
If you were chosen to exist forever with " His Son ", you will never know
who is " Son of Man "
Right now you are only capable to believe that 2000 years ago " Son of Man "
was called Jesus from Nazareth.
And that's where belief ends.

much Love !
 
human1111 said:
Here is what kabbalists believe. Watch this clip. Hopefully all your answers will be answered.

http://www.kabbalahmedia.info/VIDEO/eng_TRANS_TalkingKabbalah_NaturalDisasters_05-01-05.wmv

What kabbalists believe,( up to the point, when I had to stop video, because
I lost interest in finding out what kabbalists believe ) is Illusion that contradict
itself.
The Dude with white beard have said that we live on level of impossible to change Nature, and we can change.

Which is Lie, because We are just small part of that Nature, and as a Part of
Something that do not change, we can not Change either.

I have unlimited respect and unlimited love for all, but if your beliefs are Lie,
there is unlimited love in my attempt, to let you feel that.

All people are good .

much Kabbalah !!
 
Hi--read the article--

Honestly, I think that there are so many things going on in the media--some honest, and some not--and many things going on here on the Internet--it is difficult for a global community to understand it all.

What has happened in New Orleans is a tremendous devastation. Unless one personally undertstands devastation, there is no way one can understand what has happened here on a grand scale.

Perhaps there are some who understand personal devastation who can relate to the things that have happened here--if you do, then lift up the people of New Orleans and the surrounding area.

The aftermath of Katrina is more than what one person--even the most thoughtful one--can imagine.

Some intellectuals might posit, "Why was the city built there in the first place?" I might posit, "Why did the world think it was such a great destination all these years? A heck-uv-a vacation spot!

Here I am in Texas, and all around the Gulf Coast, and way up into Dallas-Fort Worth, we are caring for the people whose lives have forever been changed. Yes, there has been looting--I would not have taken a t.v. set, but if I had seen the waters rising, and there were clean diapers for anyone's babies--you can bet you booties I would have grabbed those items out of the flood!!! Why not??? Grrrr...

Honestly--one can look at this however one chooses. One can choose to ignore it. Katrina can mean whatever one chooses--

As some here have suggested, it is the judgement of God upon an evil city--for those who believe this, then I suggest you get busy with evidence (not for the people of New Orleans, or for me, but for yourself--and between you and whatever entity....)

I could write all night, and maybe I will write more in the morning--

I'd like to talk about the term, "fundamentalist", as I believe it is much misused and maligned.

Here I go, sticking my old neck out there again--but GEEZ!!!

InPeace,
InLove
 
I'm not using this as a reason to proove how bad New orleans was by no means..... But can anyone explain to me why all the shootings, and killings. They where some that was shooting at the helocopters trying to rescue people. And we even had one here in Georgia. Iledgidly this guy was from New Orleans... He raped some woman 2 weeks ago, then tuesday of this weeks beat another woman and jumped in her car with her in it drove into a cement truck (which Killed this 30 year old mother) Then when a man followed and asked him to stop he pulled a gun on the man who followed, but the man that followed them had his gun and shot the guy (iledgidly from new orleans) 3 times and killed him. Can anybody explain to me what the *%&^$$ is wrong with people? U know I can understand looting like for diapers, or nessesities, but what yah gonna do with a television without any electricity, What good did it do to shoot at the rescuers, or why did this 30 year old mom have to die..... This could have easily been my wife. She only lived a few miles down the road from me. This makes me so angry I cannot desccribe........ I dont understand why people have to be so stupid, and terrible to other people...........

I'll stop their, sorry you guys, but looking at what has happend sense..............:mad:
 
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The Hurricane is the work of the Goddess Nature;). She is the supreme ruler of the universe, but a force that is hard to control.
 
fascinating.


really...

of course, i've heard that the hurricane and in fact all natural disasters are actually caused by the United States government, in particular George Bush.

Louis Farakkan says that Bush as a machine which can control the weather and he used it to destroy the levies because he doesn't like people with a darker pigmentation than his.

the tsunami was caused by an underground atomic warhead exploded in such a manner to cause a tsunami... by George Bush.

i hear, as well, that the Plague and HIV are also creations of the American Government.

one wonders if there was every any tradegy in the world before the arising of the American nation and George Bush?

i suppose that all the tropical storms aren't caused by God, unless they happen to kill humans in some areas which people are all prudish about. strange that it works like that.. but, when you reject science, all that can be left to explain the inexplicable is magic.

metta,

~v

p.s. should i have apologized up front?
 
Vajradhara said:
fascinating.


really...



~v

p.s. should i have apologized up front?

no. it was funny & somewhat the truth! some things I have thought about for a long time, that will have me chuckling for awhile because i could not have said it any better.
 
Chela said:
For those easily offended, look away, for I am about to present something terribly unpopular:

Earth is a living organism. Unfortunately, this organism is infected with a cancerous tumor. The name of this cancer is called humanity.

I'm sorry, but I am offended, Chela. But more than that, I am saddened that you hate your own species so much.
 
littlemissattitude said:
I'm sorry, but I am offended, Chela. But more than that, I am saddened that you hate your own species so much.
If you punish your child because of wrong action, and you say "My child was bad" then, by this type of thinking, you would hate your child. Do you think that any parent who inflicts a punishment upon a child is full of hate? Does a parent punish a child out of love or out of hate?

So, it is just silly to think like that, don't you agree? So, I want to be clear, hate was not my motivation to post that.

People can see how punishing a child because of incorrect behavior is easy to understand, however, they do not understand how or why God would punish them, they do not understand that karma is a form of the love of God.

People do not suffer like that for no reason. Everything has a cause. Massive suffering is karma, that is all.

Now, is humanity really a cancer? Yes, surely it is, but it is a psychological cancer, a psychological imbalance, that, as an effect provides social, economical, political, national, global, and even celestial unbalance. But of course, as the Fourth Nobel truth states, there is a way to cure this cancer, there is a method.

We can state the Four Nobel Truths in the following manner:
1 - There is an illness
2 - There is a cause(s) of illness
3 - There is a possibility of a cure of the illness
4 - There is a prescription i.e., what we need to do to bring about a cure

I was, out of the love for others, helping people to understand the First Nobel Truth, because one cannot cure what one does not accept exists! :)
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Well, I guess I just don't accept your premises then, Chela. So I suppose that there is no point in even discussing it any further. I most certainly do not believe that humanity is a cancer. I choose to see the good in humanity, and I choose to believe that there is more good than evil. I see that good manifested every day. I choose to see the possibilities in humanity.

I don't believe that God or anyone else sends hurricanes as a punishment or that Mom Nature sends them to "cure" anything.
 
lol Vaj.. theres a tropical storm Rita headed towards Texas which might turn into a hurricane.. Wonder why Bush would send it to his own state?
 
& blame Bush for the snow storms & all power outages. & of course Bush starts all the forest fires.
 
Vajradhara said:
the tsunami was caused by an underground atomic warhead exploded in such a manner to cause a tsunami... by George Bush.

i hear, as well, that the Plague and HIV are also creations of the American Government.

one wonders if there was every any tradegy in the world before the arising of the American nation and George Bush?

i suppose that all the tropical storms aren't caused by God, unless they happen to kill humans in some areas which people are all prudish about. strange that it works like that.. but, when you reject science, all that can be left to explain the inexplicable is magic.

*clears his throat...*

Your tsunami theory... I won't even comment on APART from That is outrageous.

The plague was around centuries before the CIA, so please go figure.... I have heard HIV was created to eliminate homosexuals by the CIA but then again, to me it is an urban legened, a bit like the CIA can create a chemical weapon the destorys all but the primary parts of the human brain... (zombies.)

Ever tragedy before the rise of the nation called the United states of America? Yes, billions..... Such as before mentioned the PLAGUE.... The death of Joan of arc.... could go on but I am sure there isn't enough memory on this site to state of tragedy of the planet earth before USA was was founded lol....

All storms are creations of God, he is THEE creator of everything. There are also thousands of explaninatons to why he creates them. Not allways to kill humans, as you put.. lol

G W Bush, is just human.... Nothing more, nothing l.... *thinks hard* Nothing less... Just not that intelligent....

I don't really feel like saying much more... apart from everthing you said in that post is wrong.... :) have a nice day, God bless.
 
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