Vampires

Ok I was going to compare the life of a lion or something but I think the 'Vampire bat' will be more suitable, for the record firstly, yes there is such a bat. The Vampire bat feeds on goats and such.... Would you say that is a murder? I honestly think, if the Immortal Vampire is such a creature *evil smirk* :p Then it could possibly carry the HIV virus, but it wouldn't effect it... errr example the rats in the black death carried the fleas which carried the plague virus yet were not effected... Comments?
 
the hollywood bat or the real vampire bat? :)

it would not be good for a real vampire to get bit by a real vampire bat that is infected. or so it seems.
 
I don't think it would effect it, If we say just for the Hell of it "there are Immortal Vampires with special powers and auras." Then I will stand by them not being infected by anything.... They can only be killed in certain ways and transmitted viruses are not one of the ways. Although, I am not saying they do exisit 100%... ¬.¬ Just if they did.... ¬.¬ :D
 
a stake in the heart. the sun. if they get no blood they eventually wither away to dust. i think there are a couple of more ways.
 
Hi Kim.

You are probably not seeing auras, more a visualization of energies. Druids are of three main types – ‘bards’, like actors & musicians, ‘Ovates’, psychics and mediums then druids proper, like artists and writers [storytellers] – good luck with your writing by the way [I am interested in what your subject matter is so pm me ok]. Ovates see auras etc, yet this is a lesser art because they are adding colour to specify aspects! Druids see in clearer ways, this can be confusing as it is not as obvious to us, but given time we all tune in to our own thing once we know what that is. So imho I would continue to ignore yet still understand what you are being shown, ha yes you will shine white – hence the white robe of the druids! [One with the light of ceugant – the most divine centre]. Yes the mind seeing is our main thing, the way I think of telepathy is that we tune into the great spirit which is like a common unifier between things, our minds broadcast into the ether all the time, so I wouldn’t say we are ‘getting into peoples heads’ so to say more reading info within the ethylic ocean. Obviously it is possible to project/influence another’s mind which is why it is better to only project general love – read rather than write so to say!

Yes I think we understand each other on dark people, all humans have an amount of light in them though, so it is possible to help them – better to do it in a remote manner imo though! It must be hard for people that have a constant stream of evil entering their minds, but by projecting love whilst visualising there visage one can help balance and slow the stream, but I would strongly advise not entering their sphere of being i.e. getting to know them.

Hmm, I cannot see how the psychic vampires can feed without someone releasing energies somehow, perhaps week minded people loose small amounts in their everyday pursuits [hence ageing quicker], I would think that stress causes energy loss, the greater the more.



Bandit, hi. Yes ole vlad was quite the hero in Transylvania. I thought Dracula came from the word ‘draco’ which means dragon? Interesting – your greyscale vision! Something to do with stark Christian duality being blended by your more open views perhaps.



17th angel, hi. Spirits can manifest as human forms and make love – so can many ethereal beings – more in a dream context though, maybe vampires cannot I don’t know! It just seams like a useful way to extract energies & fits with some of the myths. As for diseases, I meant that they appear to manoeuvre between people as if they are dark spirits hence the tarot card of the devil often means illness. I was drawing a parallel between them and vampires – maybe they are similar entities [if at all of course].


ps. stillness of the mind stops all! inc. vampires & even satan himself! dont know about killing them or if possible.
Love n light to all.



Z
 
_Z_ said:
Bandit, hi. Yes ole vlad was quite the hero in Transylvania. I thought Dracula came from the word ‘draco’ which means dragon? Interesting – your greyscale vision! Something to do with stark Christian duality being blended by your more open views perhaps.





ps. stillness of the mind stops all! inc. vampires & even satan himself! dont know about killing them or if possible.
Love n light to all.



Z

that is about the best complement in a long time for me Z! it might be a greyscale, but its not just a vision, they are real things. (hard to explain)
but hey, if i can graduate to duality & still have all my beliefs about Jesus & the BIble then i guess i am doing ok & thanks again for that kind word.

for Dracula, i think we should use the stake method, because i dont trust the silver bullet, you hold the stake & i will hold the hammer. sound good? or we can try to silence him to death. :)
 
path_of_one said:
Or given the nature of us folks on this board, talk him to death about spirituality and whatnot! ;)

yah.:)

i am thinking it is possible to give energy to someone from talking & at the same time take away there energy. i mean, when a debate becomes exhausting that seems to be the time to quit because no one is getting anywhere.
so two people could give each other energy & 2 people could take away each others energy. or just have one taking all the energy & the other giving.

it is weird & i have never thought of that until you said that.

i just hope i dont turn out like my dad & jabber jaw people to death. he tells them straight out, "I need a few minutes of your time, If you want me to shut up, then just tell me."
then he goes on & on & puts them to sleep or they tell him to be quiet. He has read a lot of our postings on this board when he visits & he likes it.
 
Bandit hi.

Oh do explain more of you can [about light and dark]! I actually think you have graduated away from duality, or else your vision would be like a chequers board :) . no what I mean is that an infantile view of Christianity has a stark division between heaven and hell, one is black the other white. But I believe that hell does not exist, it is more ignorance and a lack of god’s spirit within. Imho Jesus would happily allow anyone into heaven after a period of transformation in purgatory [or via the underworld – not sure there – if they are similar or the same according to one’s beliefs]. Indeed even Satan/Lucifer could go to heaven in this way, but he chooses not to. But I don’t know all that much about the bible n all that so correct me if I am wrong. If I was Jesus then that’s how I would see it!



Dracula; well yes we could beet him at his own game by draining him of energy, sending him back to the black light & rendering him useless and void of all existence.

Or put him in a lead box and send him into space to suffer billions of years without a feed. Then again one could just join him – all those virgins sound like great fun! In fact the whole lifestyle could be fun – shame its not like in the movies.



Only joking btw, I am well aware of the real nature of evil and I don’t like it at all, in real life there is nothing funny about it, dark people seam to think it is but they are torn apart spiritually – evil destroys itself!



Z
 
_Z_ said:
Bandit hi.

Oh do explain more of you can [about light and dark]! I actually think you have graduated away from duality, or else your vision would be like a chequers board :) . no what I mean is that an infantile view of Christianity has a stark division between heaven and hell, one is black the other white. But I believe that hell does not exist, it is more ignorance and a lack of god’s spirit within. Imho Jesus would happily allow anyone into heaven after a period of transformation in purgatory [or via the underworld – not sure there – if they are similar or the same according to one’s beliefs]. Indeed even Satan/Lucifer could go to heaven in this way, but he chooses not to. But I don’t know all that much about the bible n all that so correct me if I am wrong. If I was Jesus then that’s how I would see it!



Dracula; well yes we could beet him at his own game by draining him of energy, sending him back to the black light & rendering him useless and void of all existence.

Or put him in a lead box and send him into space to suffer billions of years without a feed. Then again one could just join him – all those virgins sound like great fun! In fact the whole lifestyle could be fun – shame its not like in the movies.



Only joking btw, I am well aware of the real nature of evil and I don’t like it at all, in real life there is nothing funny about it, dark people seam to think it is but they are torn apart spiritually – evil destroys itself!



Z

i only have perceptions of heaven & hell. i can see it all 4 different ways & then some. i think they are both real in many ways. i have not been to either as a place outside of NDE & the experience of others on this, but i think the spirit/soul does come from & go somewhere. i think we are seeing evil the same because it does destroy itself, yet a new evil seems to always pop up. i find hell a better one on one topic for myself so maybe we can do that some day if you like.
i will get you a pm soon on the grey.

Or put him in a lead box and send him into space to suffer billions of years without a feed. Then again one could just join him – all those virgins sound like great fun! In fact the whole lifestyle could be fun – shame its not like in the movies.
this is the part i find most interesting about it all. there is like a love there yet being done through some kind of search for immortality & the fiction vampire does seem like fun. on the other hand there is a twist & it seems like a lonely life.
so...
that leads me to think that someday evil gets put into a bottle or lead box & is eventually disentigrated.
so maybe I have graduated to pluralism? not sure:)

 
Bandit.

Yes I would like to do a thread on hell & evil generally, perhaps in the one on one debate section unless you want more members. Maybe we could invite a small group so it doesn’t get confusing. I think there is a balance of good and evil in the world, so if you stop it in one way it simply reappears in another…



Not sure if it is possible to get rid of evil! except that eventually all shall return to the one, thus there may be a transformative process for this? If its like yin & yang then attacking it would simply reduce it to its minimum, it would be smaller yet have all the power of the white side thus being more dangerous than ever – something I worry about!



Z
 
I don't see where good and evil comes into this thread.... I believe you are suggesting.... Vampires are evil? They are natural creatures... if your going to go by the 'Immortal Vampire' Theory then they are just doing what they are meant to, to survive.... You do not look upon other large preditors that kill innocent defenseless pray as evil, you just shrug shoulders turn blind eye, watch with the family on a discovery channel and what not. So I would defend 'Immortal Vampires' As natural not evil. Also, Like Satan from "south park" says in his song, Without evil there would be no good, so it is good to be evil some times..." I love that song lol..... (will be stuck in my head all day now:() Anyway it is an immortal thing, you will never destroy all that is good, just like you will never destroy all that is evil... :)
 
17th angel.

Evil is comparative yes, I believe in such a thing as natural evil; if a lion tries to eat you, then as far as you are concerned it is evil! The same applies to vampires.

I would say that the ‘art of balance’ is required as concerns evil; one should imho try to stay in the middle, yet one does not know where it is unless we sometimes act slightly to one side [either] of it. In ancient Egypt this way of being was called ‘the maat [mahat] or the feather of the balance of good and evil, once this is found we may be at peace within ourselves. I would suppose/propose that this can be mixed within the philosophy of monotheistic religions – kind of like the * ‘Tao of god’.



*Just an idea going around in my head at the moment!



Z
 
some vampires could be evil & some could be good. i think that is why vampires fight over the girl. but it seems the good vampire goes back to being mortal & the immortal vampire gets killed, or something like that.

i saw part of a movie that had that in it.
 
Hmm. It seems to me after reading your linked article that vampires are just people with psychological problems manifesting themselves in phsyical symptoms (similar to manic depression) and social problems. I can see how believing yourself to be a vampire in this case would be comforting because you'd feel like you are special and have some kind of power that others don't have. Someone should give them all a big hug.

Let's have a hug a vampire day. Anyone? :)
 
Not comfort so much, but a way to justify how they are feeling instead of face up to things.

I quite like the hug a vampire day idea. Although I can't imagine having much of a take-up...
 
Hmmm, well I wish you luck with that..

So they do not have to show responsability? Well, that would be what I labeld the human living Vampire... they can be like this either from a lack of mental stability, or yes I guess they cannot face their condition. If we speak of "Real" Vampires... Then I wouldn't say they like to be called what they are... If that makes sense lol.
 
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