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shadowman
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would you let your kid have free will to cross a road with heavy traffic?
no you probably wouldnt let them take part in a situation with such serious consequences
so why does god give us free will to potentially let us damn ourselves to hell.
we dont have much going for ourselves, we are worthy of hell, we make dumb mistakes all the time, we are clueless about darn near everything.
it seems irresponsible on gods part to let us fart around in this crazy world where terrible stuff happens to or because of our mistakes, and then he gives us little clues, but nothing that really proves hes there.
he appears to us pretending to be aman, supposedly.
and again in hallucinations, in thoughts, in random life events that we can possibly take as being "maybe a sign from god, but maybe not"
none of his proofs are REALLY valid evidence.
his spirit "breathes on us" sometimes
and many people with the spirit breathing on them have way diffwerent opinions. they might even not be in the same religion!
so he gives us free will to play around in this perilous world wi9th ultimate consequences of hell.
If I was god and I cared about humans, I wouldnt do that.
I would eliminate hell, I would make humans who couldnt get lost in their own mistakes and failures.
I would SHOW UP! God right now could keep every single person out of hell on the whole earth ever, if he just sahowed up in a real, tangible way.
not by influencing peoples thoughts according to their own perception, not by spirit breathing on them or tickling their heart, not by trying to get us to believe that a man was really him
no Im saying if god is god and he cares and doesnt want us in hell, then he could freaking touch down in the sahara 3000 feet tall with love beams radiating out into every human and he could say HI IM GOD I LOVE YOU AND THIS IS WHAT I WANT YOU GUYS TO FIX AND DO
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and another thing!
GOOD lets people tarnish his good name left and right. Just think about all the horiible things that have been done in his name
manifest destiny, african and native slavery, genocide, inquisition, witch burning, holy war in ireland, in africa, in east europe
dont you think god might want to come down and say. hey guys THESE ACTS ARE NOT DONE IN MY NAME, KEEP MY NAME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH WITH THESE ACTS
for example he could right now say I DO NOT ENDORSE what bush is doing killing hundreds a day and leading men to their deaths.
but no he allows his name to be used to justify some of the worst crap ever!
what gives
and again, how is it respoonsible on gods part that we haVE THE FREE WILL TO DAMN OURSELVES ETERNALLY... thats an example of him putting us into a catastrophically perilous situation. and, obviously, we arent all choosing him, so tons of us are going to hell
you would hopew he could do sometihng about that, but it doesnt seem like he wants to. he seems ok with it.
how can this god be trusted?
no you probably wouldnt let them take part in a situation with such serious consequences
so why does god give us free will to potentially let us damn ourselves to hell.
we dont have much going for ourselves, we are worthy of hell, we make dumb mistakes all the time, we are clueless about darn near everything.
it seems irresponsible on gods part to let us fart around in this crazy world where terrible stuff happens to or because of our mistakes, and then he gives us little clues, but nothing that really proves hes there.
he appears to us pretending to be aman, supposedly.
and again in hallucinations, in thoughts, in random life events that we can possibly take as being "maybe a sign from god, but maybe not"
none of his proofs are REALLY valid evidence.
his spirit "breathes on us" sometimes
and many people with the spirit breathing on them have way diffwerent opinions. they might even not be in the same religion!
so he gives us free will to play around in this perilous world wi9th ultimate consequences of hell.
If I was god and I cared about humans, I wouldnt do that.
I would eliminate hell, I would make humans who couldnt get lost in their own mistakes and failures.
I would SHOW UP! God right now could keep every single person out of hell on the whole earth ever, if he just sahowed up in a real, tangible way.
not by influencing peoples thoughts according to their own perception, not by spirit breathing on them or tickling their heart, not by trying to get us to believe that a man was really him
no Im saying if god is god and he cares and doesnt want us in hell, then he could freaking touch down in the sahara 3000 feet tall with love beams radiating out into every human and he could say HI IM GOD I LOVE YOU AND THIS IS WHAT I WANT YOU GUYS TO FIX AND DO
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and another thing!
GOOD lets people tarnish his good name left and right. Just think about all the horiible things that have been done in his name
manifest destiny, african and native slavery, genocide, inquisition, witch burning, holy war in ireland, in africa, in east europe
dont you think god might want to come down and say. hey guys THESE ACTS ARE NOT DONE IN MY NAME, KEEP MY NAME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH WITH THESE ACTS
for example he could right now say I DO NOT ENDORSE what bush is doing killing hundreds a day and leading men to their deaths.
but no he allows his name to be used to justify some of the worst crap ever!
what gives
and again, how is it respoonsible on gods part that we haVE THE FREE WILL TO DAMN OURSELVES ETERNALLY... thats an example of him putting us into a catastrophically perilous situation. and, obviously, we arent all choosing him, so tons of us are going to hell
you would hopew he could do sometihng about that, but it doesnt seem like he wants to. he seems ok with it.
how can this god be trusted?