why does god punish flawed creatures that he made forever

Just because you dont believe in something doesnt mean it doesnt exist.. You are a reasonable intelligent person so you should understand that. I also dont believe you "cannot" share such a view because Ive seen some pretty hard people come to Christ. Nothing is impossible and the bible says that the Word will not return to Him void. So we'll see :)

And it comes to my mind that everytime a non-believer hears the gospel of truth and rejects it they are creating a callous which gets thicker and thicker and thicker... We refer to that as hardening ones heart. Dont be so hard Tao!

God loves you!
Excellent points.;)
 
True indeed!!! Sometimes we just forget that it's just a guide. We become confined in our thinking. Another mistake is to think just because it means so much to us that it has to mean the same thing to other people. If they disagree, we assume they're "denying the truth."

Doctrine assumes everyone has the same needs, or that everyone will reach the same conclusions if given the time -- that over time they will see things our way. But hey -- we all come from different walks of life, so we can't presume people have to think the same way as us. Also, our thinking changes over time as we discover that certain things are more important than others.

As we get older, accumulate life experiences and/or see more of the world, we often find our earlier attitudes or beliefs to be either wrong or misguided. We find new ways of seeing things. That's why sometimes doing as we're told isn't necessarily a good idea. We should instead focus more on affirmative experiences that either reinforce existing beliefs/convictions or lead to new ways of seeing things.

Doctrine is a guide, agreed. The Bible is not. It is a manual for operating humans correctly. Just like today's "manuals" it also warns about operating the human in the wrong way, and what can happen when done so. The "manual" also contains within the pages, instructions, guidance, tips, and troubleshooting procedures.

And the "manual" states that if the product (human) isn't operated (ing) as perscribed by the "manufacturerl", the warranty can be made void...

Something to think about next time one unwraps a "new" product made by the "manufacturer"...;)

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