People have no faith in the existence of the very upper world!

[aman]

People have no faith in the existence of the very upper world!

Shankara told that one should not aspire the fruit either in this world or in the upper world for divine service done (Ihamutra Phalaviragah….). Today people have no faith in the existence of the very upper world! There is no point of fruit after death. There is no hell from which God can protect us. There is no heaven to receive any happiness after death. There is no Brahma Loka at all. Hence, people want fruits in this world itself. Some people are not sure of the fruit in this world also after doing the service. Hence, they say that if the fruit is given first, the service will be rendered after receiving the fruit. This shows the lack of confidence in God even in the business.

For some, the existence of God itself is doubtful and hence they require the fruit first and then only do some thing in return. Some say that if the fruit is given first, then they will favor God by believing Him. They feel that God wants to increase the percentage of believers in this world. They feel that if the percentage of believers is not maintained, God will loose His Supreme post! In spite of such mean and meaningless mentalities, God is responding to every trend because God is the divine Father and is always anxious of the eternal uplift of the souls. Except for this point, God has no other reason to respond to every attitude of such low levels.

 

[Eudaimonist]

What is the "upper world"? I'm not familiar with this term.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[aman]

What is the "upper world"? I'm not familiar with this term.


eudaimonia,

Mark

Dear Eudaimonist;

If you do social service and good acts you will go to temporary heaven where you will enjoy the results of your good deeds. When the furits of your such good deeds are exhausted you have to return back again to this tempoary world again.


If you love Lord and recogninse Him when He comes to this earth in human form, and serve Him without any expecatation, then you will become His inner circle and go along with Him to His abode, from which you will not come back to this miserable world. When ever Lord want to come to this world for propagation of the divine knowledge you will also accompany Him as His associate here.

Thus only in human life upon the earth, the chance for doing spiritual effort to please Lord. All other worlds are world for enjoing the results of your deeds, either good or bad. Some of the serious deed's results are enjoied here itself. For other bad deeds, the souls is punished in the hell to reduce its attachments to materialism. Here also in hell, Lord is so kind to see the upliftment of the soul by giving training to the soul by punishment, which arise out of his own action, to uplift the soul to Him.

 

[wil]

Namaste dattaswami2, will you be discussing this time or simply cutting and pasting stuff you've left all over the net to dozens of new threads?

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[17th Angel]

Namaste dattaswami2, will you be discussing this time or simply cutting and pasting stuff you've left all over the net to dozens of new threads?

You can't give him cross words but then turn and give Mee a pat on the back and a cookie... That is unjust.

 

[wil]

You can't give him cross words but then turn and give Mee a pat on the back and a cookie... That is unjust.

Has mee ever started 12 or 20 threads a day?

Have I ever given mee a pat on the back or a cookie?

Have I given D2 cross words?

I simply googled his thread title and found it the same as the last go round he's cut&pasted this around the net. I think I've proposed the mee get more involved in discussion as well. And I think mee does. I'm hoping D1, D2 or aman can do the same.