Have you seen the boundless?
Seen with the eye of the body, or the mind, or the soul? Yes, to all three, according to their capacity to see ... and I know enough to know that there is limitation in the perceiving subject, prior to its object. Because the perceiving subject is limited does not mean the object perceived is limited ... therefore one might reasonably see the infinite as underpinning the finite ... any finite.
And then if all existence is within existence; then where is you isolated God.
You see it as isolation, I don't ... I see existence as contingent, and God as Absolute ... so it's not a case of isolation, but of distinction.
Where is God in relation to the material world?
Above it, below it, before it, after it, with it ... As Aquinas demonstrated —
There are things that existed that no longer exist,
There are things that exist, and will exist but do not yet exist.
There is the possibility that everything, at some point, will exist.
There is the possibility that nothing, at some point, will exist.
It is not possible for something to come from nothing of its own accord,
But if nothing can exist,
Indeed if, as science can posit, there was a point of no existence, outside of space and time,
Then that which first causes something to exist is not of itself bound by the laws of existence.
The mystery then is, that That Which Causes All, chooses to make itself known, to 'exist' in some ineffable and utterly transcendent manner so it might be perceived by the senses.
That is a grace, not an obligation.
The obligation is upon us to accept that which is given, that which makes us greater than we are or could possibly be.
I don't see it as separation, but as an acknowledgment of a gift. The Mystery is that It choce to make Itself known, and in a most remarkable manner ... not as Other, but more intimately, as Father.
It seems to think you are separate from God is Hell itself; per scripture of course.
No, that's a subsequent and subjective determination.
... again... talking God as other from existence;
As demonstrated above, God is prior to ... therefore other than.
... still isolating yourself and relying on ‘supernatural’ rather than truth or reality;
The 'supernatural' is the foundation of truth and reality — one might argue that the Supernatural is the only Truth and the only Reality — a Brahmin certainly would.
Here's a conundrum:
What is Real is necessarily True
What is True is not necessarily Real.
Therefore what is 'True Absolutely' transcends reality (as does Absolute Reality), because reality is not Absolute, but by its nature subject to change.
So Absolute Reality is Supernatural.
You lie to yourself (and everyone on the forum) to maintain faith…..
That is beneath you.
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And eventually in time; the revealing unfolds; By God!
That's what we call Revelation. By the very fact of attributing it to God, you're attributing it to that which lies beyond the science you preach.
so the senses tell us all that once life leaves a body, that inanimate mass, will not walk again; seems good to trust perception.
Correct ... at the most base level ... but we know that life is not determined solely by its materiality — and a more perfect materiality is possible.
The moon goes around the earth; but a long time ago it was not understood that way; knowledge evolves removing phenomena from understanding of reality.
You seem to have a limited view of phenomena. By definition a phenomena is a thing that exists, wether or not it can be explained is subsequent and does not determine the phenomena itself. Also man's knowledge 'evolves' — but Truth doesn't — so the evolution is man's. And evolution as an ongoing perfection is not guaranteed ... so evolution could lead up a blind alley.
Trust God, not the beliefs of men.
Without men, you would not know of God with any certainty.
Without men, you ould not know a fraction of what you claim to be true — unless you're saying you have proved every fact for yourself.
I rather think you have proved enough from science to take the rest of faith ... you seem to deny faith, and yet it is apparent you live by it ... even if only in faith in your own certainty.
If you are supposed to know the truth By God, then you will be honest when you know it; otherwise, you are living in your own mind of beliefs.
If science itself readily admits it doesn't know all the answers ... on what do you base your certainty that you do? It's dishonest according to your own science.
Beliefs are for fools; ...
Yet you believe in what you believe.
As G.K. Chesterton said, "There's two kinds of people in the world, those with a creed and they know it, and those with a creed and they don't know it."
If someone was to walk and have knowledge that could assist; what question would you ask?
I don't seek knowledge ... I seek wisdom.
The last person I asked about knowledge was an electrician, when discussing the rewiring of my house.
Thomas