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I don't believe there is necessarily an afterlife at all
Then what?
I don't believe there is necessarily an afterlife at all
Ok, but then energy can not be destroyed or created, only changed. And what is life force?Then nothing. You die and that is it. Game over, man. Game over.
Then nothing. You die and that is it. Game over, man. Game over.
Then nothing. You die and that is it. Game over, man. Game over.
Dauer, Wil, why does heaven necessarily have to be thought of as a reward? The incentive to do good is its own incentive... but can't conceptualizing heaven enrich the present moment in other ways?
Dialogue,
Eclectic answered your question for you. I don't think it's good to live life like a donkey that is led by a carrot or threatened with a whip and can find plenty of motivation for being a good person without that. Some people need or desire that and I'm glad it works for them.
Actually, your comparaison has nothing to do here...a donkey follows his whims and desires...he follows what he lusts, and he fears what he sees....
The story is different with the believer....The believer gives up so many pleasures for the sake of God...He/ she isnt a donkey..he/she is a man/ a woman of WILL..
The believer is straving in this world for God's pleasure, and avoiding His dissatisfaction......The believer here is doing good out of love to God.....love that lifs you up beyond any whims or fear, but to loose that love..
In the first place, the true believer seeks God's pleasure...in the day of judgement, when believers will be rewarded by a paradise...it is God's gift to them....a true believer isnt aiming at it more than God's pleasue....if God is pleased with him/her, that's his/her paradise....It is a present from God to those who seek His pleasure....It is a present from God to those who love Him
At the beginning, a believer comes to worship God out of fear or out of greedness, but when he/ she becomes in deep contact with God, and when love to God grows to spread in all his/ her body, the beliver then begins to see all heaven in God's pleasure.
we all feel good by doing good, but havent you asked yourself from where that feeling is coming? and why?
AND, if you think that there is no afterlife, then what's God purpose behind creating this world??? Did He create it in vain???? for no purpose???
Actually, your comparaison has nothing to do here...a donkey follows his whims and desires...he follows what he lusts, and he fears what he sees....
The story is different with the believer....The believer gives up so many pleasures for the sake of God...He/ she isnt a donkey..he/she is a man/ a woman of WILL..
we all feel good by doing good, but havent you asked yourself from where that feeling is coming? and why?
Now, we come to another important question, if you think that there is no afterlife, then what's God purpose behind creating this world???Did He create it in vain???? for no purpose???
we all feel good by doing good, but havent you asked yourself from where that feeling is coming? and why?
AND, if you think that there is no afterlife, then what's God purpose behind creating this world??? Did He create it in vain???? for no purpose???