who is Michael the Archangel?

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THE spirit creature called Michael is not mentioned often in the Bible. However, when he is referred to, he is in action.


In the book of Daniel, Michael is battling wicked angels;

in the letter of Jude, he is disputing with Satan;

and in Revelation, he is waging war with the Devil and his demons.

By defending Jehovah’s rulership and fighting God’s enemies, Michael lives up to the meaning of his name—"Who Is Like God?"


But who is Michael?


At times, individuals are known by more than one name.

For example, the patriarch Jacob is also known as Israel,

and the apostle Peter, as Simon. (Genesis 49:1, 2; Matthew 10:2)

Likewise, the Bible indicates that Michael is another name for Jesus Christ, before and after his life on earth.

shall we consider Scriptural reasons for drawing that conclusion.:)​
 
Alex P said:
Oh yes, do let's, Can you share all the scriptures with reference to this?
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OK THEN ,YOU HAVE TWISTED MY ARM:D how about this for starters

Archangel.


God’s Word refers to Michael "the archangel." (Jude 9)

This term means "chief angel." Notice that Michael is called the archangel.

This suggests that there is only one such angel.

In fact, the term "archangel" occurs in the Bible only in the singular, never in the plural.

Moreover, Jesus is linked with the office of archangel.

Regarding the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ, 1 Thessalonians 4:16 states:

"The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice."
so, the voice of Jesus is described as being that of an archangel.
This scripture therefore suggests that Jesus himself is the archangel Michael.



Also an Army Leader.

The Bible states that "Michael and his angels battled with the dragon . . . and its angels." (Revelation 12:7)

So , Michael is the Leader of an army of faithful angels.
Revelation also describes Jesus as the Leader of an army of faithful angels.
(Revelation 19:14-16)


And the apostle Paul specifically mentions "the Lord Jesus" and "his powerful angels." (2 Thessalonians 1:7; Matthew 16:27; 24:31; 1 Peter 3:22)


So the Bible speaks of both Michael and "his angels" and Jesus and "his angels." (Matthew 13:41)

Since God’s Word nowhere indicates that there are two armies of faithful angels in heaven—one headed by Michael and one headed by Jesus—it is logical to conclude that Michael is none other than Jesus Christ in his heavenly role.:)


 
Actually, God is everything, for without God there is nothing, angel, man, demon, or rock.
 
Daniel 10:14 Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days.

10:19-21-11:1
19 And said, O man greatly beloved, fear not: peace be unto thee, be strong, yea, be strong. And when he had spoken unto me, I was strengthened, and said, Let my lord speak; for thou hast strengthened me.
20 Then said he, Knowest thou wherefore I come unto thee? and now will I return to fight with the prince of Persia: and when I am gone forth, lo, the prince of Grecia shall come.
21 But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince.
Daniel 11:1 Also I in the first year of Darius the Mede, even I, stood to confirm and to strengthen him.

Ezra 1:8 Even those did Cyrus king of Persia bring forth by the hand of Mithredath the treasurer, and numbered them unto Sheshbazzar, the prince of Judah.
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These passages show that this particular Michael (which roughly translates 'Who is like God') is king Darius. He is the Michael standing up for Israel. Shocking, but men and servants of God are usually the angels who do God's work on earth. Gabriel is called a man in Daniel 9:21, and in Isaiah 44:28, King Cyrus (Darius was co-king) is called the LORD's shepherd of his people. Darius was king of the Medes and Cyrus the king of Persia, and the vision had to do with the decisions that would be made about the Jews in times to come. In 19:20 the angel says "and now will I return to fight with the prince of Persia: and when I am gone forth, lo, the prince of Grecia shall come" which meant that the Grecian empire would eventually replace the Persian empire. Which it did. Notice this is a vision, and the angel speaking represents the kings of the Medes, which is a perfectly acceptable thing to happen in a vision.

I Peter 1:10-12 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.
 
mee said:
Moreover, Jesus is linked with the office of archangel.

Regarding the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ, 1 Thessalonians 4:16 states:

"The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice."
so, the voice of Jesus is described as being that of an archangel.
This scripture therefore suggests that Jesus himself is the archangel Michael.
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The lord himself? That sounds like it is talking of god?

mee said:
So , Michael is the Leader of an army of faithful angels.
Revelation also describes Jesus as the Leader of an army of faithful angels.
(Revelation 19:14-16)
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Where does it say jesus?

mee said:
So the Bible speaks of both Michael and "his angels" and Jesus and "his angels." (Matthew 13:41)

Since God’s Word nowhere indicates that there are two armies of faithful angels in heaven—one headed by Michael and one headed by Jesus—it is logical to conclude that Michael is none other than Jesus Christ in his heavenly role.:)
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Aren't they god's angels though? He is the creator and ruler of all... Not trying to be funny or anything just I am not getting this Michael is Jesus...
 
Quahom1 said:
Actually, God is everything, for without God there is nothing, angel, man, demon, or rock.
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very true and as his name has great meaning (he causes to become)thats what JEHOVAH means , without God there is nothing , he is dynamic energy:)


and JEHOVAH is the most high psalm 83;18
 
Back in the early 1800’s, Bible scholar Joseph Benson stated that the description of Michael as found in the Bible "manifestly points out the Messiah."


Nineteenth-century Lutheran E. W. Hengstenberg agreed that "Michael is no other than Christ."

Similarly, theologian J. P. Lange, when commenting on Revelation 12:7, wrote: "We take it that Michael . . . is, from the outset, Christ in warlike array against Satan." Does the Bible support this identification? Yes, it does.:)



Since Michael is called an archangel, some feel that identifying him as Jesus detracts in some way from Jesus’ dignity or rank. (Jude 9)

Yet, the evidence for such an identification led the above-mentioned scholars of Christendom to recognize Michael as Jesus despite the fact that they presumably believed in the Trinity.
 
THE GREAT PRINCE GOES INTO ACTION​

Daniel 12:1 reads: "During that time Michael will stand up, the great prince who is standing in behalf of the sons of your people." This verse foretells these two distinct things regarding Michael: one, that he "is standing," suggesting a state of affairs that extends over a period of time; two, that he "will stand up," suggesting an event during that period of time. ​




First, we want to know the period when Michael is "standing in behalf of the sons of [Daniel’s] people." Recall that Michael is a name given to Jesus in his role as a heavenly Ruler. ​


The reference to his "standing" reminds us of the way that this term is used elsewhere in the book of Daniel. It often refers to the action of a king, such as his taking up royal power.—Daniel 11:2-4, 7, 20, 21. ​

It is evident that the angel was here pointing to a period of time specified elsewhere in Bible prophecy. Jesus called it his "presence" (Greek, pa·rou·si´a), when he would rule as King in heaven. (Matthew 24:37-39) ​

This time period is also called "the last days" and "the time of the end." (2 Timothy 3:1; Daniel 12:4, 9) ​

Ever since that period began in 1914, Michael has been standing as King in heaven.—Compare Isaiah 11:10; Revelation 12:7-9. ​



When, though, does Michael "stand up"? When he rises up to take special action. ​



This, Jesus will do in the future. ​



Revelation 19:11-16 prophetically describes Jesus as the mighty Messianic King riding at the head of an angelic army and bringing destruction upon enemies of God. ​



Daniel 12:1 continues: "And there will certainly occur a time of distress such as has not been made to occur since there came to be a nation until that time." As Jehovah’s Chief Executioner, Christ will bring an end to the entire wicked system of things during the foretold "great tribulation."—Matthew 24:21; Jeremiah 25:33; 2 Thessalonians 1:6-8; Revelation 7:14; 16:14, 16. ​





How will people who exercise faith fare during this dark time? Daniel was further told: "During that time your people will escape, every one who is found written down in the book." (Compare Luke 21:34-36.) What is this book? In essence, it represents Jehovah God’s remembrance of those who do his will. (Malachi 3:16; Hebrews 6:10) ​



Those who are written down in this book of life are the most secure people in the world, for they enjoy divine protection. Whatever harm may come to them, it can and will be undone. ​



Even if death should overtake them before this coming "time of distress," they remain safe in Jehovah’s limitless memory. He will remember them and resurrect them during the Thousand Year Reign of Jesus Christ.—Acts 24:15; Revelation 20:4-6.​
 
The power that overcomes the accuser from Revelation is the good confession that Jesus made before Ponchus Pilate, and it is the rock that Jesus spoke of to Peter. In this confession Michael now proceeds and stands. Jesus' ministry began with John the Baptist, proclaiming the kingdom of God had come and that the word had come to dwell in humankind! This levels everyone to equality before God, with no high or low places.(Ezekiel 21:26, Isaiah 40:4) Jesus gave the new covenant in his own blood, and he had his testimony confirmed in his resurrection.
Revelation 12:10-11 ...for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, who accuses them day and night before our God. And they have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, for they loved not their lives even unto death.

Ephesians 6:10-12 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his might. Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we are not contending against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world rulers of this present darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.

I Tim 5:12-13 Fight the good fight of the faith; take hold of the eternal life to which you were called when you made the good confession in the presence of many witnesses. In the presence of God who gives life to all things, and of Christ Jesus who in his testimony before Pontius Pilate made the good confession,

John 18:37 Pilate said to him, "So you are a king?" Jesus answered, "You say that I am a king. For this I was born, and for this I have come into the world, to bear witness to the truth. Every one who is of the truth hears my voice."
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Two phrases above are in brown, because the word 'Devil' in one can be translated 'false accuser'. It shows connection between the 'wiles of the devil' and the 'accuser of the brethren'. Also, 'word of their testimony' and good confession' are underlined to show another connection.

The good confession was made before Pilate, and Jesus said it to Peter "flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven!" The good confession is the rock made without hands in the prophecy in Daniel, and it strikes the foot of the image, smashing the image to bits. It then grows into a mountain and fills the earth. It is the stumbling stone of Isaiah 8:14, the stone that builders reject, and it is the narrow gate.
Psalm 118:19-23 Open to me the gates of righteousness, that I may enter through them and give thanks to the LORD. This is the gate of the LORD; the righteous shall enter through it. I thank thee that thou hast answered me and hast become my salvation. The stone which the builders rejected has become the head of the corner. This is the LORD's doing; it is marvelous in our eyes.
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REV 12;10-11 the book of REVELATION is for our day, and when Jesus was GIVEN RULERSHIP DIGNITY AND AURTHORITY DANIEL 7;13-14


the first thing he did was get rid of those in heaven in opposition to his kingship.
And since Jesus took up his kingship in 1914 those in opposition that were thrown down to the earth, have influenced many on the earth to be in opposition to anyone who upholds Jesus kingship.
yes since 1914 we have been living in the lords day .


but there is great opposition to the GOODNEWS OF THE KINGDOM matthew 24;14, and to those who bear witness to it.




And war broke out in heaven: Mi´cha·el and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled ​

8 but it did not prevail, neither was a place found for them any longer in heaven. ​

9 So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him. ​


10 And I heard a loud voice in heaven say:
"Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our God! ​

11 And they conquered him because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of their witnessing, and they did not love their souls even in the face of death. ​

12 On this account be glad, YOU heavens and YOU who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to YOU, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time."​




its all happening in these the last days


And the dragon grew wrathful at the WOMAN, and went off to wage war with the remaining ones of her seed, who observe the commandments of God and have the work of bearing witness to Jesus. revelation 12;17



And I shall put enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her seed. He will bruise you in the head and you will bruise him in the heel."
GENESIS 3;15



THAT AGEOLD SERPENT HAS GREAT INFLUENCE but no worries ,the preaching of the GOODNEWS OF GODS KINGDOM IS BEING MADE KNOWN matthew 24;14


And Jesus sheep hear his voice
john 10;16:)



revelation 7;9-10 what a great crowd they are something like seven million of them worldwide AT THE LAST COUNT and they are ALL WAVING THEIR SYMBOLIC PSALM BRANCHES to welcome Jesus as Gods reigning king , and that is the heavenly kingdom that they put their trust in .Daniel 2;44



After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands. 10 And they keep on crying with a loud voice, saying: "Salvation [we owe] to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb."
revelation 7;9-10

no man knows the final number of that great crowd ,:)
 
Dogbrain said:
No, it does not. That is a false doctrine.
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Indeed. No angel has EVER laid his life down for a man. BUT, it is said that MAN has laid his life down for angels, even though he did not know them to be angels.

Big difference between man and angel. Which stuns them to this day. We lay down our life for angel, man, and sometimes animal...so great is the capacity of our love (which comes from God). All God wants is us to value others, greater than self.

That is what we have in abundance over all living things...the capacity of God's love.
 
angels are not to be worshiped, and they reject it, because they are fellow servants. God is worshiped. God the Father and the Son of God are worshiped by both man and angels. That is why Jesus is not an archangel, he is God.
 
Given that Jesus is 'The God' in person and not just representative, I don't see how it affects the issue of a Michael-Jesus. Besides, every king of Israel receives worship with people bowing down to them. An example is king Solomon or David. They are gods (lowercase g) but represent God; so they receive worship. (When European royals claim divinity, they use this to advantage as part of their claim.)

2Sam 9:8 Mephibosheth bows to David
1King 1:23 Nathan the prophet bows to David
Ester 3:2 Mordecai refuses to bow to Haman
 
Dogbrain said:
No, it does not. That is a false doctrine.
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understanding is now abundant Daniel 12;4 especially in these the last days


do not be misled by some religious leaders in christendom who are in opposition to progressive bible understanding .


"And as for you, O Daniel, make secret the words and seal up the book, until the time of [the] end. Many will rove about, and the [true] knowledge will become abundant."
Daniel 12;4


There has been lots of roving around the bible AND NOW in the last days the understanding is ABUNDANT



But there is much oppostion to bible truth
 
Dream said:
Given that Jesus is 'The God' in person and not just representative, I don't see how it affects the issue of a Michael-Jesus. Besides, every king of Israel receives worship with people bowing down to them. An example is king Solomon or David. They are gods (lowercase g) but represent God; so they receive worship. (When European royals claim divinity, they use this to advantage as part of their claim.)

2Sam 9:8 Mephibosheth bows to David
1King 1:23 Nathan the prophet bows to David
Ester 3:2 Mordecai refuses to bow to Haman
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Because the Bible states that man will judge angels, which means man will be over them (including Michael). Kind of puts a whole new light on what some people think of Jesus, doesn't it...
 
The book of Jude reveals a fascinating example:

"When Michael the archangel had a difference with the Devil and was disputing about Moses’ body, he did not dare to bring a judgment against him in abusive terms, but said: ‘May Jehovah rebuke you.’" (Jude 9)

Michael is a name applied to Jesus—before and after his life on earth—in his role as archangel, or chief of Jehovah’s heavenly army of angels. (1 Thessalonians 4:16)

Note, though, how Michael handled this confrontation with Satan.


Jude’s account does not tell us what Satan wanted to do with Moses’ body, but we can be sure that the Devil had some vile purpose in mind.

Perhaps he wanted to promote the misuse of that faithful man’s remains in false worship.

While Michael resisted Satan’s wicked scheme, he also showed remarkable self-restraint.

Satan surely deserved a rebuke, but Michael, who at the time he was disputing with Satan had not yet had "all the judging" committed to him, felt that such a judgment should come only from Jehovah God. (John 5:22)

As archangel, Michael had extensive authority. Yet, he humbly deferred to Jehovah rather than trying to seize additional authority.

Besides humility, he also showed modesty, or an awareness of his limitations.​
 
Quahom said:
Because the Bible states that man will judge angels, which means man will be over them (including Michael). Kind of puts a whole new light on what some people think of Jesus, doesn't it...
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Didn't think of that, but what you said reminds me: Hebrews 1:6 says "Let all God's angels worship him." I feel like TheMee is saying that is what it means to be archangel is a higher class from angels, so maybe I can excuse him on that account.

My understanding is that prophets are angels. I have always wondered about what it means where it says "we shall judge angels," but now I take that to be saying we are elevated to freedom as members of the body of Christ. We follow our consciences. Ephesians 2:6 says he "...made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus."
 
mee said:
The book of Jude reveals a fascinating example:​


"When Michael the archangel had a difference with the Devil and was disputing about Moses’ body, he did not dare to bring a judgment against him in abusive terms, but said: ‘May Jehovah rebuke you.’" (Jude 9) ​

Michael is a name applied to Jesus—before and after his life on earth—in his role as archangel, or chief of Jehovah’s heavenly army of angels. (1 Thessalonians 4:16) ​

Note, though, how Michael handled this confrontation with Satan. ​


Jude’s account does not tell us what Satan wanted to do with Moses’ body, but we can be sure that the Devil had some vile purpose in mind. ​

Perhaps he wanted to promote the misuse of that faithful man’s remains in false worship. ​

While Michael resisted Satan’s wicked scheme, he also showed remarkable self-restraint. ​

Satan surely deserved a rebuke, but Michael, who at the time he was disputing with Satan had not yet had "all the judging" committed to him, felt that such a judgment should come only from Jehovah God. (John 5:22) ​

As archangel, Michael had extensive authority. Yet, he humbly deferred to Jehovah rather than trying to seize additional authority. ​

Besides humility, he also showed modesty, or an awareness of his limitations.​
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Ironic that you should point out Michael and Satan. Michael could not rebuke Satan, very true (Jude 1:9), but Jesus rebuked Satan harshly Mark 9:25. Hebrews goes further to point out that an angel can not rule the world (Heb 2:5), Jesus will be the one to reign (Luke 1:32-33 and Revelation 19:16).

Michael and Jesus can not be the same person
 
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