Matrixism - A religion based on The Matrix

[RJM]

You know, what's interesting while I was typing my last post about DNA? There's the program on T.V. "I Survived", which comes on the tube on Fridays.
And one of these victims is a Mom with a young girl, and an infant, who was suddenly abducted by a guy in the church parking lot.
Savagely assaulted, and was told by her abductor that he just spent several years in prison and that he himself was assaulted in prison and was taking out his revenge on her, with her kids screaming in the back seat.
After sexually assaulting her, and robbing her at the ATM, he eventually let her live and sauntered off leaving them in the car.
As it turned out in the end, he wasn't so careful in cleaning up after himself as he thought, and eventually was arrested.
As it turns out?

He was the son of the church secretary, brought up in a great home, and was himself an ATF agent!

Tiptoeing amongst the Tulips, and prostrating amongst the Peonies is all nice.
But, you're really not being objective enough of this situation your in.

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Look, a squirrel ...

 

[Geo]

Sure RJM.
Explain prophecy to me in the Bible.

Again, "Religion" is a misnomer.

 

[Geo]

Look, a squirrel ...

Yes. Look a Tulip.

A Peony.

 

[RJM]

Yes. Look a Tulip.
A Peony.

A red herring

Again, "Religion" is a misnomer.

Belief, whatever ...
Why do you need to keep reposting the same images?

Explain prophecy to me in the Bible.

Assuming Matrixism ties in with Christianity, why did Christ warn of spiritual consequences after death resulting from choices in this time&space organic situation, if there are none?

“ All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left. “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world.

For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

“Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’ “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

“They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’ “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’ “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
Matthew 25: 31-46

 

[RJM]

Whether or not a Matrixist agrees with the authenticity of what the NT reports that Jesus said etc, how does Matrixism tie in with these and other statements?

 

[Geo]

RJM, your not thinking.
I'm curious why you feel you need to interact in this thread, you and wil, and Thomas, since you aren't ready to accept it's message?
Why not start a "Jedi Religion" thread. Have some fun.

Explain how the Almighty knew long ago that these Hebrew priests, of their own volition, involving hate, envy etc., would end up sending the Messiah to the cross?
In compliance with His mercy for humanity, as expressed in Leviticus 17:11?
And?
Just as the Essene's recorded in the Dead Sea Scrolls, for future humanity to find?

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[Geo]

Yes. The chicken or,
The Egg.
?

 

[RJM]

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[Geo]

Yes. Especially if your an atheist, and feel like you ought to look down on the, "Believers".

 

[RJM]

RJM, your not thinking.
I'm curious why you feel you need to interact in this thread,

https://www.interfaith.org/community/threads/19819/
In your other thread The Great White Throne Judgement your opening post quotes Revelation 20:11-12

"And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12. I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened..."

But you forget to include the rest of verse 12 which reads:

“Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done.”
Revelation 20:11-13

Spiritual consequences deriving from material existence?
A half-truth is a whole ...

Falsehood

 

[Geo]

Corbet? Are you saying that your not sure about what Physics has been explaining, now?
Are you saying that the priests who sent the Lord to the cross were not known to God, apart from Time? And, not prophesied about to us?
"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations." ... See, today I appoint you over nations and kingdoms to uproot and tear down, to destroy and overthrow, to build and to plant."
Jeremiah 1

So, I had asked you about DNA issues, and even was given an example to show you.
So it would seem, with respect to what I originally cited concerning Revelation 12:4, it is correct.
Our actions here are a reflection of our spirit.
Which is timeless.

"“Can a man hide himself in hiding places So I do not see him?” declares the LORD. “Do I not fill the heavens and the earth?” declares the LORD.
(Jeremiah 23:24)

Revelation 10:6
"And he swore by him who lives for ever and ever, who created the heavens and all that is in them, the earth and all that is in it, and the sea and all that is in it, and said,
“There will be no more delay."

 

[RJM]

Corbet? Are you saying that your not sure about what Physics has been explaining, now?

No

Are you saying that the priests who sent the Lord to the cross were not known to God, apart from Time? And, not prophesied about to us?

Not relevant

"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations." ... See, today I appoint you over nations and kingdoms to uproot and tear down, to destroy and overthrow, to build and to plant."

And to judge the sheep from the goats after death by their life actions in the material world? Or not? I'm not saying you have to believe that's what happens, but do you agree it is what Christ is reported in the gospels to have said?

So, I asked you about DNA, and even was given an example to show you.

What's that supposed to mean, lol?

"Death is merely an experience in which you are meant to learn a great lesson.
You can not die."
Parhamensa Yogananda (Hindu)

Bhagavad Gita 8:15-23

On attaining Me, the great souls are no more subjected to rebirth, suffering and transience, for they have attained the highest perfection.

All worlds up to Brahma are subject to rebirth. But on reaching Me there is no rebirth.

Those who know that the day of Brahman consists of thousands of ages and similarly His nights also, are the knowers of day and night.

From the unmanifested are manifested all the beings at the beginning of the day, and are dissolved again into the unmanifested upon the arrival of the night.

All the living entities, after taking birth again and again, are automatically dissolved as the night arrives and are manifested again upon the arrival of the day.

But beyond the state of unmanifested there is yet another state of unmanifested which is eternal and which can never be annihilated even when all entities are annihilated

It is declared as the unmanifested and undiminishing, which is also known as the ultimate goal by attaining which one) never returns. That is My Supreme Abode.

That Supreme Being in whom are situated all the elements and by whom all this is pervaded can be attained only through bhakti (devotion).

Now I will explain to you the time when the Yogis depart but never to return, and also the time when they depart but come back again.
https://www.hinduwebsite.com/gita8.asp

Consequences ...

 

[Geo]

Prophecy is Relevant RJM.

It tells us we are in a program. Our future is a known.
We also see it in the NDE accounts we can read today.

 

[Geo]

From your website reference -

"It presents the importance of realizing that the eternal, indestructible Self is one’s true identity and becoming stabilized in it."

The message of The Matrix.

 

[RJM]

From your website reference -

"It presents the importance of realizing that the eternal, indestructible Self is one’s true identity and becoming stabilized in it."

The message of The Matrix.

This Chapter deals with the nature of Self and Supreme Self, what happens to souls upon death, who will go to the world and ancestors to return again and who will go to the world of Brahman and become immortal. Those who practice austerities, purity, contemplative practices and worship of God attain Brahman in the end.
https://www.hinduwebsite.com/gita8.asp

 

[Geo]

Prophecy is relevant RJM.

 

[wil]

Explain prophecy to me in the Bible.

Nobody signed up for TED talk prophessor.

 

[RJM]

Our actions here are a reflection of our spirit.
Which is timeless.

But do all spirits return eventually to Paradise/God/Brahma? In a cognisant way, I mean -- not just as universal energy the molecules break up to atomic sub-particles? Say Geoffrey Dahmer -- in the long run? Did his actions in this time&space dimension reflect on what becomes of his spirit/soul in the timeless hereafter?

"“Can a man hide himself in hiding places So I do not see him?” declares the LORD. “Do I not fill the heavens and the earth?” declares the LORD.
(Jeremiah 23:24)

Who is arguing against that? How is it relevant?

Revelation 10:6
"And he swore by him who lives for ever and ever, who created the heavens and all that is in them, the earth and all that is in it, and the sea and all that is in it, and said,
“There will be no more delay."

The end time is upon us? What will happen when God judges the souls before the great white throne? Will they all return to God/Brahma/Paradise?

 

[Cino]

It tells us we are in a program. Our future is a known.

Just as a side remark: it is very hard to formally prove the correctness of even simple programs, i.e. that they behave predictably. There are entire classes of programming problems that are formally impossible to prove correct.

How does your belief in predetermination through software correctness incorporate mathematical formalisms? Do you believe the programmers of our reality to be beyond the constraints of formal mathematics? If so, why would they have to rely on predictable software (which is a form of mathematics) for prophecy to play out?

I'm not trying to poke holes in your beliefs. While I don't share them, I am still genuinely interested in how you understand the world.

 

[RJM]

I'm not trying to poke holes in your beliefs. While I don't share them, I am still genuinely interested in how you understand the world.

Yes.
Thanks @Cino
Am not trying to censor @Geo the right to express his beliefs, but disputing his attempt to equate his Matrixism with Christianity, as taken from the NT words of Christ, or with the Bhagavad Gita Hinduism of Yogananda – both of which imply after death ‘spirit’ consequences beyond the organic simulation, natural dimension, for choices made while still within it -- and ditto the science woo. Other things too, of course, lol