The Bible Code: What is it?

donnann, I have asked you before but didn't get a very precise answer. What do you base all these theories on? Dose it all come from within or what other theories have you based this on?
Last time you mentioned common sense, but this isn't a satisfactory answer since, I'm guessing, you're the only one on here who follow these ideas. Either you are the only one here with common sense or there are more than one kind.
Don't you think it is rather presumptuous to state that this is the way it is when you don't have the education to back it up? How can you see this truth when you, apparently, need one or two degrees to comprehend it?
 
donnann, I have asked you before but didn't get a very precise answer. What do you base all these theories on? Dose it all come from within or what other theories have you based this on?
Last time you mentioned common sense, but this isn't a satisfactory answer since, I'm guessing, you're the only one on here who follow these ideas. Either you are the only one here with common sense or there are more than one kind.
Don't you think it is rather presumptuous to state that this is the way it is when you don't have the education to back it up? How can you see this truth when you, apparently, need one or two degrees to comprehend it?

Hi,

I do not need degrees to comprehend it, I need them to decode it. I have a very high IQ. I cant really go into how I KNOW but this really is a true theory. It seems to me that you have some fear of this theory. Dont you think that the blueprint to paradise is far less dangerous than some false code of predictions of bad events within the text? Since when is cures for diseases and corrections of environment ect dangerous?
 
Hi,

I do not need degrees to comprehend it, I need them to decode it. I have a very high IQ. I cant really go into how I KNOW but this really is a true theory. It seems to me that you have some fear of this theory. Dont you think that the blueprint to paradise is far less dangerous than some false code of predictions of bad events within the text? Since when is cures for diseases and corrections of environment ect dangerous?

Well I don't see it as a choice between those two options, and I don't see your theory as something to fear. It's just very far from the world I have experienced. The reason how you KNOW is what I am interested in, I'm interested in understanding. I can't just go on your word, I need to understand the pieces you found and put together into your understanding of the world, and I want to compare them to the pieces I have.
 
hey say hello when you see "him" next :)

do we need blueprints to "save" a species, or enable paradise here on earth, surely intelligence will suffice no? it seems that this whole code to paradise thing is an attempt to save the world away from oneself or outside of ones problems, like an easy way out without having to work on or see ones contradictions, because the code will sort it out, i'll just sit back. the kingdom of heaven is within etc blah, need we look anywhere else? i'm more interested in decoding my conflict as that to me is the key to paradise.

"In oneself lies the whole world and if you know how to look and learn, the door is there and the key is in your hand. Nobody on earth can give you either the key or the door to open, except yourself..."

i don't really know about the actual code thingy but do we "need" to decypher it, if it exists, to reach paradise? is this the one way?

Even the scriptures talk about measurements of the temple correct? If you construct a building using a blueprint and the measurements are wrong the building will most likely end up collapsing. Architects use blueprints to construct sound buildings and god is the greatest architect, so he has given man a blueprint to use his Intelligence to correct and repair this world.
 
I wish I had a degree in science so I could decode it myself. Unfortunately I dont. I do have the intellect but not the education:mad:

is it not worth getting a degree if it means you can save species and help realise paradise?
 
Well I don't see it as a choice between those two options, and I don't see your theory as something to fear. It's just very far from the world I have experienced. The reason how you KNOW is what I am interested in, I'm interested in understanding. I can't just go on your word, I need to understand the pieces you found and put together into your understanding of the world, and I want to compare them to the pieces I have.

I am sorry I cant talk about how I know you wouldnt believe me.
 
ok, well then why should we believe anything you say anyway? i mean, seriously. unless you can connect it to something we can actually see, or read, or something... what makes your claim to this knowledge anything more than "says you"? are you claiming to be a prophet or something like that?

b'shalom

bananabrain
 
Well maybe if I had a supercomputer I wouldnt need a degree :D

so you're not gonna get a degree then? first stop shop to possibly saving the world and you're not gonna bother :confused:

you don't answer questions :rolleyes:
 
so you're not gonna get a degree then? first stop shop to possibly saving the world and you're not gonna bother :confused:

you don't answer questions :rolleyes:

Maybe I wont need a degree or maybe I am not meant to be the one to decode it but simply the one to point out heres the blueprint and those with the education can decode it. I believe everything happens for a reason. I know this for a reason and if I am able to decode it then maybe its not time to do it and if I am not maybe I am not the one that is suppose to do it.
 
Maybe I wont need a degree or maybe I am not meant to be the one to decode it but simply the one to point out heres the blueprint and those with the education can decode it. I believe everything happens for a reason. I know this for a reason and if I am able to decode it then maybe its not time to do it and if I am not maybe I am not the one that is suppose to do it.

So why do anything?
 
ok, well then why should we believe anything you say anyway? i mean, seriously. unless you can connect it to something we can actually see, or read, or something... what makes your claim to this knowledge anything more than "says you"? are you claiming to be a prophet or something like that?

b'shalom

bananabrain

Well, you know the hebrew letters all have numerical value. The words form phrases and sentences. These form mathmatical equations. There is already jewish documentation showing YHVH written vertically to form a figure simular to a man which of courses man was created in the image of GOD. So whether you believe me or not you can at least see there is a logical basic for this theory :)
 
ok, well then why should we believe anything you say anyway? i mean, seriously. unless you can connect it to something we can actually see, or read, or something... what makes your claim to this knowledge anything more than "says you"? are you claiming to be a prophet or something like that?

b'shalom

bananabrain

I am a female so the term would be prophetess but I am simply saying I know this for a fact. If you read my last posts maybe you will see the logic of it based on jewish studies and teachings.
 
donnann, I have asked you before but didn't get a very precise answer. What do you base all these theories on? Dose it all come from within or what other theories have you based this on?
Last time you mentioned common sense, but this isn't a satisfactory answer since, I'm guessing, you're the only one on here who follow these ideas. Either you are the only one here with common sense or there are more than one kind.
Don't you think it is rather presumptuous to state that this is the way it is when you don't have the education to back it up? How can you see this truth when you, apparently, need one or two degrees to comprehend it?

Ok cup I will try to explain a little better. In jewish studies they write the name of GOD in hebrew vertically to form the figure of a man (man was created in the image of GOD). Each consonant is an element and the vowels (which they do not write down but they are still there) are the 5th element spread out consisting of the elements they span. As you know elements have scientific equations.

This is just a basic explanation. Do you see that this isnt just something I made up? Hebrew letter do function in this way. Going on this basic pattern you mirror the YHVH to get the opposite join the two at the navel which is the center vowel to get the whole picture. The texts contain a puzzle that is like this. Some people when doing a puzzle start from the outside in (seems funny to me beause creation of this universe was from the outside in) but this puzzle is started from the inside out with YHVH (2OPPOSITES) being the center of the puzzle. I AM who I AM. This is the pattern for LIFE and everything extends from this pattern. Since HUMAN was created in this image there ya go.
 
donnann said:
Well, you know the hebrew letters all have numerical value. The words form phrases and sentences.
yes, i know that.

These form mathmatical equations.
do you mean gematria? at best, it's an "asmakhta" or support to something, but not the basis for major decisions or interpretations, numbers are simply too easy to manipulate.

There is already jewish documentation showing YHVH written vertically to form a figure simular to a man which of courses man was created in the image of GOD.
yes, that's known as the "KaVOD" configuration, but the Name can also be interpreted at least two other ways, we already know this, but there is not, as far as i know, an entire system based upon this method of interpretation - and i'm pretty sure i *would* know. if you have knowledge of such a system, i'd be interested to examine it and know its provenance.

So whether you believe me or not you can at least see there is a logical basic for this theory
you've shown me something that is widely known, but not why this theory equates to "The Truth (TM)" nor that you have a particularly special understanding of it.

I am simply saying I know this for a fact.
all you are actually saying here is that you *believe* it to be a fact. you cannot *know* anything to be a fact. in fact, philosophically, you are on very slippery ground here indeed. if i am to accept something as "fact", i have at least to see something like "evidence", preferably peer-reviewed. otherwise it's simply your say-so - and what's that to me?

If you read my last posts maybe you will see the logic of it based on jewish studies and teachings.
er... i don't think you understand these things. it is an interesting theory and one i've not heard before, so i'll grant that it's original, but you actually haven't shown me anything other than this one, widely known example of the kavod configuration of the main Name. can you show me one based on, say, the name "E-L ShaDaY"?

Each consonant is an element and the vowels (which they do not write down but they are still there) are the 5th element spread out consisting of the elements they span. As you know elements have scientific equations.
but there's nothing scientific about this. you've simply asserted an equivalence. can you substantiate this by telling me anything about the scientific significance of the Name?

Do you see that this isnt just something I made up?
well, you haven't exactly made it up, but you have provided no basis for agreeing it to be a valid method of interpretation, for example, by actually demonstrating how it can be used.

Going on this basic pattern you mirror the YHVH to get the opposite join the two at the navel which is the center vowel to get the whole picture. The texts contain a puzzle that is like this. Some people when doing a puzzle start from the outside in (seems funny to me beause creation of this universe was from the outside in) but this puzzle is started from the inside out with YHVH (2OPPOSITES) being the center of the puzzle. I AM who I AM. This is the pattern for LIFE and everything extends from this pattern. Since HUMAN was created in this image there ya go.
i've followed your instructions, but i've never seen anything like this before (see attachment) certainly, there is no precedent for using reflections in this way, nor have i ever come across anything like this in kabbalah. more to the point, it would be totally blasphemous to give the impression of G!D a) needing a counterpart, or b) being in some way a dualistic concept. we do not need two of the Name to express the concept of zivug or "joining" within the G!DHead.

consequently, i'm none the wiser, but neither am i any more convinced of your claim.

b'shalom

bananabrain
 

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yes, i know that.


do you mean gematria? at best, it's an "asmakhta" or support to something, but not the basis for major decisions or interpretations, numbers are simply too easy to manipulate.


yes, that's known as the "KaVOD" configuration, but the Name can also be interpreted at least two other ways, we already know this, but there is not, as far as i know, an entire system based upon this method of interpretation - and i'm pretty sure i *would* know. if you have knowledge of such a system, i'd be interested to examine it and know its provenance.


you've shown me something that is widely known, but not why this theory equates to "The Truth (TM)" nor that you have a particularly special understanding of it.


all you are actually saying here is that you *believe* it to be a fact. you cannot *know* anything to be a fact. in fact, philosophically, you are on very slippery ground here indeed. if i am to accept something as "fact", i have at least to see something like "evidence", preferably peer-reviewed. otherwise it's simply your say-so - and what's that to me?


er... i don't think you understand these things. it is an interesting theory and one i've not heard before, so i'll grant that it's original, but you actually haven't shown me anything other than this one, widely known example of the kavod configuration of the main Name. can you show me one based on, say, the name "E-L ShaDaY"?


but there's nothing scientific about this. you've simply asserted an equivalence. can you substantiate this by telling me anything about the scientific significance of the Name?


well, you haven't exactly made it up, but you have provided no basis for agreeing it to be a valid method of interpretation, for example, by actually demonstrating how it can be used.


i've followed your instructions, but i've never seen anything like this before (see attachment) certainly, there is no precedent for using reflections in this way, nor have i ever come across anything like this in kabbalah. more to the point, it would be totally blasphemous to give the impression of G!D a) needing a counterpart, or b) being in some way a dualistic concept. we do not need two of the Name to express the concept of zivug or "joining" within the G!DHead.

consequently, i'm none the wiser, but neither am i any more convinced of your claim.

b'shalom

bananabrain

Sometimes the most difficult thing to find is something that is right in front of you. The best place to hide something is in plain sight. So thats why you have never seen this before because it was right there in front of you all along. I know you may find it hard to believe me but I really am correct.
 
yes, i know that.


do you mean gematria? at best, it's an "asmakhta" or support to something, but not the basis for major decisions or interpretations, numbers are simply too easy to manipulate.


yes, that's known as the "KaVOD" configuration, but the Name can also be interpreted at least two other ways, we already know this, but there is not, as far as i know, an entire system based upon this method of interpretation - and i'm pretty sure i *would* know. if you have knowledge of such a system, i'd be interested to examine it and know its provenance.


you've shown me something that is widely known, but not why this theory equates to "The Truth (TM)" nor that you have a particularly special understanding of it.


all you are actually saying here is that you *believe* it to be a fact. you cannot *know* anything to be a fact. in fact, philosophically, you are on very slippery ground here indeed. if i am to accept something as "fact", i have at least to see something like "evidence", preferably peer-reviewed. otherwise it's simply your say-so - and what's that to me?


er... i don't think you understand these things. it is an interesting theory and one i've not heard before, so i'll grant that it's original, but you actually haven't shown me anything other than this one, widely known example of the kavod configuration of the main Name. can you show me one based on, say, the name "E-L ShaDaY"?


but there's nothing scientific about this. you've simply asserted an equivalence. can you substantiate this by telling me anything about the scientific significance of the Name?


well, you haven't exactly made it up, but you have provided no basis for agreeing it to be a valid method of interpretation, for example, by actually demonstrating how it can be used.


i've followed your instructions, but i've never seen anything like this before (see attachment) certainly, there is no precedent for using reflections in this way, nor have i ever come across anything like this in kabbalah. more to the point, it would be totally blasphemous to give the impression of G!D a) needing a counterpart, or b) being in some way a dualistic concept. we do not need two of the Name to express the concept of zivug or "joining" within the G!DHead.

consequently, i'm none the wiser, but neither am i any more convinced of your claim.

b'shalom

bananabrain

This is the biological model from which all things come. So the mathmatical equations for everything else is contained within this master. You take creation and it was done in the reverse of this master print this here in this universe HUMAN being created last but being that which always existed in the divine universe. So everything extends out from this but the combinations for codes are contained in this and its always the same PATTERN
 
Maybe I wont need a degree or maybe I am not meant to be the one to decode it but simply the one to point out heres the blueprint and those with the education can decode it. I believe everything happens for a reason. I know this for a reason and if I am able to decode it then maybe its not time to do it and if I am not maybe I am not the one that is suppose to do it.

oh well, maybe paradise next year then, fingers and toes crossed, so long as it don't rain and somebody else sorts it out
 
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