The Bible Code: What is it?

[A Cup Of Tea]

Ok cup I will try to explain a little better. In jewish studies they write the name of GOD in hebrew vertically to form the figure of a man (man was created in the image of GOD).

I don't know this, but ok

Each consonant is an element and the vowels (which they do not write down but they are still there) are the 5th element spread out consisting of the elements they span. As you know elements have scientific equations.

What elements are we talking about? From the periodic table? What is the 5th element? I have no idea what you mean by elements having scientific equations. Do you have an example?

This is just a basic explanation. Do you see that this isnt just something I made up? Hebrew letter do function in this way.

I'm not sure about that yet, lets get to that later.

Going on this basic pattern you mirror the YHVH to get the opposite join the two at the navel which is the center vowel to get the whole picture. The texts contain a puzzle that is like this.

I don't know if it's basic.
How is mirroring YHVH going on this pattern?

I AM who I AM. This is the pattern for LIFE and everything extends from this pattern. Since HUMAN was created in this image there ya go.

This I don't understand at all.

Again, it's hard to take something serious if you don't know the origins of that theory. Stating that you KNOW it's this way, dose not help in an explanation or an argument.

 

[donnann]

I don't know this, but ok
What elements are we talking about? From the periodic table? What is the 5th element? I have no idea what you mean by elements having scientific equations. Do you have an example?

Four elements, hydrogen, carbon, oxygen and nitrogen, are the major components of most organic compounds
Well for example water is H2O. (CH3OCH3) Some texts call the 5th element wood some ether its wood ether.


I'm not sure about that yet, lets get to that later.

I don't know if it's basic.
How is mirroring YHVH going on this pattern?

Because for the flow of energy and union of elements and constant flow of those process the opposites are needed.

This I don't understand at all. Again, it's hard to take something serious if you don't know the origins of that theory. Stating that you KNOW it's this way, dose not help in an explanation or an argument.

Split a piece of wood and there you will find me-quote from the secret gospels.

One more point. This quote refers to the same thing on different levels. Wood represents the vertical like the hebrew letters written vertically. The splitting reveals the divine within the human but also within that is the knowledge of the wood ether being the 5th element. So it goes back to the bible code I have been talking about. I hope this makes sense. It makes sense to me but sometimes I have a problem getting my point across.

 

[A Cup Of Tea]

Problem with quotes? Try the 'Preview Post' button before posting, I always do, it's easy to make mistake!

So, donnann, the bible in hebrew is a string of hydrogen, carbon, oxygen and nitrogen? Will everything in paradise compose of biological matter? Even so, even though those might be the most common, no complex organism could function without without a great many other elements.

Why do you bring the 5th element into this at all?

From where I'm sitting, you have collected a great deal of information from many sources and put them together by heart. You 'like' the concept of the 5th element, and that everything has a feminine counterpart, paradise and perfection.
I would like to think that they resonate in your soul, like different concepts resonate in different peoples souls on this site. You're not the only one here with an 'odd' mix of religion as their faith.
Something I see as problematic in your personal mix is that you seem to have trouble expressing how it fits together, this could be because we all have trouble putting faith and emotion into word, or it could be that what you have mixed isn't fully compatible by themselves.

 

[radarmark]

Nice catch ACOT. Donnann, look up Zohar in the web and give it a read. If that is too much start with "The Center for Lurian Kabbalah". The whole notion of what you are saying resonates with the ARI.

Pax et armore vincunt omnia.... radarmark

 

[donnann]

Problem with quotes? Try the 'Preview Post' button before posting, I always do, it's easy to make mistake!

So, donnann, the bible in hebrew is a string of hydrogen, carbon, oxygen and nitrogen? Will everything in paradise compose of biological matter? Even so, even though those might be the most common, no complex organism could function without without a great many other elements.

Why do you bring the 5th element into this at all?

From where I'm sitting, you have collected a great deal of information from many sources and put them together by heart. You 'like' the concept of the 5th element, and that everything has a feminine counterpart, paradise and perfection.
I would like to think that they resonate in your soul, like different concepts resonate in different peoples souls on this site. You're not the only one here with an 'odd' mix of religion as their faith.
Something I see as problematic in your personal mix is that you seem to have trouble expressing how it fits together, this could be because we all have trouble putting faith and emotion into word, or it could be that what you have mixed isn't fully compatible by themselves.

The fifth element is the smaller elements. In religious terms its spirit. What I am saying is 100 percent corrrect. There are scientists that could definately be able to do this. Even though I know this why should I be the one doing all the work?

 

[donnann]

Nice catch ACOT. Donnann, look up Zohar in the web and give it a read. If that is too much start with "The Center for Lurian Kabbalah". The whole notion of what you are saying resonates with the ARI.

Pax et armore vincunt omnia.... radarmark

Are you talking about the tree of life? Same model but more environment based

 

[donnann]

Problem with quotes? Try the 'Preview Post' button before posting, I always do, it's easy to make mistake!

So, donnann, the bible in hebrew is a string of hydrogen, carbon, oxygen and nitrogen? Will everything in paradise compose of biological matter? Even so, even though those might be the most common, no complex organism could function without without a great many other elements.

Why do you bring the 5th element into this at all?

From where I'm sitting, you have collected a great deal of information from many sources and put them together by heart. You 'like' the concept of the 5th element, and that everything has a feminine counterpart, paradise and perfection.
I would like to think that they resonate in your soul, like different concepts resonate in different peoples souls on this site. You're not the only one here with an 'odd' mix of religion as their faith.
Something I see as problematic in your personal mix is that you seem to have trouble expressing how it fits together, this could be because we all have trouble putting faith and emotion into word, or it could be that what you have mixed isn't fully compatible by themselves.

Everyone has knowledge encoded within their dna, this is why some people are good at music , some at science ect. This is whats encoded in my dna.

 

[donnann]

Nice catch ACOT. Donnann, look up Zohar in the web and give it a read. If that is too much start with "The Center for Lurian Kabbalah". The whole notion of what you are saying resonates with the ARI.

Pax et armore vincunt omnia.... radarmark

The YHVH model is the biological based on human life ect.
The tree of life model is environment based. Same knowledge.

 

[donnann]

The YHVH model is the biological based on human life ect.
The tree of life model is environment based. Same knowledge.

Central to modern Kabbalistic study is the diagram Otz Chiim, the Tree of Life. The Tree encapsulates creation, existence and the return to the divine (or the path to enlightenment) in ten sefirot ("numbers," "emanations" or "spheres;" singular, sefira) and the twenty-two paths through which they interrelate (introduced in our Introduction to the Kabbalah).
The Tree of Life describes the descent of the divine into the manifest world, and methods by which divine union may be attained in this life. It can be viewed as a map of the human psyche and of the workings of creation, both manifest and unmanifest. Indeed, any system can be more fully understood both in itself and relative to any other system by viewing it in relation to the Tree of Life. The Tree allows and requires a more holistic understanding of any topic to which it is applied - reason, spiritual perception and intuition are all needed, as is clear from the structure of the Tree itself.
It is important to realize that the pure nature of divinity is unity, and that the seemingly separate aspects or emanations exist only in view of the emanated, living in a state of illusory separation. This is expressed in the ZoharB
By Tree I mean a literal tree not this model.

 

[donnann]

Nice catch ACOT. Donnann, look up Zohar in the web and give it a read. If that is too much start with "The Center for Lurian Kabbalah". The whole notion of what you are saying resonates with the ARI.

Pax et armore vincunt omnia.... radarmark

If you look at the model divine knowledge even though in a somewhat separated condition can be filtered through to this condition.

 

[donnann]

If you look at the model divine knowledge even though in a somewhat separated condition can be filtered through to this condition.

or encoded within in it like the fifth element movie where the engineer says this beings dna has infinite genetic knowledge.

 

[chakraman]

I wish I had a degree in science so I could decode it myself. Unfortunately I dont. I do have the intellect but not the education

GOD makes out time schedules not me

seems lazy to me, god'll sort it. first quote implies its in your hands, your schedule and then but i'm a child, a puppet on a string. we always look outside of ourselves for transformation, i suppose inner work is arduous.

 

[donnann]

seems lazy to me, god'll sort it. first quote implies its in your hands, your schedule and then but i'm a child, a puppet on a string. we always look outside of ourselves for transformation, i suppose inner work is arduous.

Ok Ill try but I also have a life so I have to work between the million other things going on but I do tend to work at lightening speed. I'll post some equations by next week

 

[donnann]

seems lazy to me, god'll sort it. first quote implies its in your hands, your schedule and then but i'm a child, a puppet on a string. we always look outside of ourselves for transformation, i suppose inner work is arduous.

Going to do some crash courses.use my intellect, get a few computer programs and have some answers as soon as I can. I am working with a full house full though and a lot of distractions

 

[bananabrain]

Sometimes the most difficult thing to find is something that is right in front of you. The best place to hide something is in plain sight. So thats why you have never seen this before because it was right there in front of you all along.

i'm sorry, but you are quite mistaken. i am well aware of "hiding something in plain sight", which as a student and practitioner of this particular discipline i have myself done a number of times. i have, as i have said, seen the "kavod" configuration before. i also know enough about how the Name works to know that it DOES NOT REQUIRE A COUNTERPART - it contains its own "counterpart" within it. that is why this mirror thing is a) unnecessary b) extremely misleading and c) at worst, completely blasphemous, leading one to think that there might be two Powers, G!D Forbid. furthermore, there is *no* precedent for this mirroring technique of yours, nor have you supplied any authority, let alone a reputable one based on a legitimate kabbalistic text, many of which i am quite familiar with.

I know you may find it hard to believe me but I really am correct.

the trouble is, you haven't actually given any reason to suggest that you might actually know what you're talking about. you appear to be making this up as you go along.

This is the biological model from which all things come.

but you haven't shown me any biology. you have shown me a symbolic interpretation of human intercourse, which is of course not, biologically how "all things come". you have also rather interestingly used the vowels for a completely different Divine Name, the confusion surrounding which has led to the best known name that is used in error by groups such as the j-witnesses. the vowels themselves are used for completely different purposes in different schools of kabbalah - are you familiar with this?

So the mathmatical equations for everything else is contained within this master.

mathematical or biological? they're not the same thing.

You take creation and it was done in the reverse of this master print this here in this universe HUMAN being created last but being that which always existed in the divine universe. So everything extends out from this but the combinations for codes are contained in this and its always the same PATTERN

i think i might know what you're getting at here, if you're talking about the "tree of life". however, the ToL is not a biological model, at least not down here in 'assiyah. it is an expression of the concept of being made in the "Divine Image" - thus humans follow this pattern almost unconsciously, it emerges apparently spontaneously, rather like a mandelbrot set, but it is certainly not linkable to the behaviour of the chemical elements at a molecular level.

Some texts call the 5th element wood some ether its wood ether....

i've not come across this in kabbalistic texts. perhaps you could provide a source? there is a source for five *dimensions*, perhaps you might tell me at least which text it's in?

The fifth element is the smaller elements. In religious terms its spirit.

that is a better way of putting it, but the term "element" is highly misleading.

Because for the flow of energy and union of elements and constant flow of those process the opposites are needed.

but all these opposites are ALREADY WITHIN THE TREE/NAME - that is why you don't need the mirroring thing! did you not know that?

Split a piece of wood and there you will find me-quote from the secret gospels.

i see what you mean, but these secret gospels of yours are not kabbalistic texts.

Donnann, look up Zohar in the web and give it a read.

no, please don't. zohar is very, very complicated and you will not really understand what you're reading, nor will you be able to contextualise what you are reading without an excellent understanding of judaism, jewish history, texts and approaches. if you must read something, read a book by r. aryeh kaplan.

If that is too much start with "The Center for Lurian Kabbalah". The whole notion of what you are saying resonates with the ARI.

the ari would be horrified, as would any kabbalist, by this technique of mirroring. lurianic kabbalah is extremely recondite and extremely advanced. i really cannot recommend such a course of action.

What I am saying is 100 percent corrrect. There are scientists that could definately be able to do this. Even though I know this why should I be the one doing all the work?

look, you don't really seem to understand this stuff. i really suggest you do some proper reading instead.

Everyone has knowledge encoded within their dna, this is why some people are good at music , some at science ect. This is whats encoded in my dna.

but from what you're saying, everyone's got this encoded in their dna - besides, i see no evidence that you are "good at" this.

Central to modern Kabbalistic study is the diagram Otz Chiim, the Tree of Life.

lifting an unattributed quote as you have done here is an infringement of both copyright and the rules of this site. this little cut-n-paste is from here:

Byzant Kabbalah - The Tree of Life

i will confine myself to saying that nobody who knows anything about kabbalah spells it like that. firstly, it's 'etz, not otz - 'ETz HaYiM if you wish to be precise.

or encoded within in it like the fifth element movie where the engineer says this beings dna has infinite genetic knowledge.

oh, for feck's sake. it's a MOVIE. i've seen it many times. so far, this is the only source you've actually mentioned at all!

b'shalom

bananabrain

 

[donnann]

i'm sorry, but you are quite mistaken. i am well aware of "hiding something in plain sight", which as a student and practitioner of this particular discipline i have myself done a number of times. i have, as i have said, seen the "kavod" configuration before. i also know enough about how the Name works to know that it DOES NOT REQUIRE A COUNTERPART - it contains its own "counterpart" within it. that is why this mirror thing is a) unnecessary b) extremely misleading and c) at worst, completely blasphemous, leading one to think that there might be two Powers, G!D Forbid. furthermore, there is *no* precedent for this mirroring technique of yours, nor have you supplied any authority, let alone a reputable one based on a legitimate kabbalistic text, many of which i am quite familiar with.


the trouble is, you haven't actually given any reason to suggest that you might actually know what you're talking about. you appear to be making this up as you go along.


but you haven't shown me any biology. you have shown me a symbolic interpretation of human intercourse, which is of course not, biologically how "all things come". you have also rather interestingly used the vowels for a completely different Divine Name, the confusion surrounding which has led to the best known name that is used in error by groups such as the j-witnesses. the vowels themselves are used for completely different purposes in different schools of kabbalah - are you familiar with this?


mathematical or biological? they're not the same thing.


i think i might know what you're getting at here, if you're talking about the "tree of life". however, the ToL is not a biological model, at least not down here in 'assiyah. it is an expression of the concept of being made in the "Divine Image" - thus humans follow this pattern almost unconsciously, it emerges apparently spontaneously, rather like a mandelbrot set, but it is certainly not linkable to the behaviour of the chemical elements at a molecular level.


i've not come across this in kabbalistic texts. perhaps you could provide a source? there is a source for five *dimensions*, perhaps you might tell me at least which text it's in?


that is a better way of putting it, but the term "element" is highly misleading.


but all these opposites are ALREADY WITHIN THE TREE/NAME - that is why you don't need the mirroring thing! did you not know that?


i see what you mean, but these secret gospels of yours are not kabbalistic texts.


no, please don't. zohar is very, very complicated and you will not really understand what you're reading, nor will you be able to contextualise what you are reading without an excellent understanding of judaism, jewish history, texts and approaches. if you must read something, read a book by r. aryeh kaplan.



the ari would be horrified, as would any kabbalist, by this technique of mirroring. lurianic kabbalah is extremely recondite and extremely advanced. i really cannot recommend such a course of action.


look, you don't really seem to understand this stuff. i really suggest you do some proper reading instead.


but from what you're saying, everyone's got this encoded in their dna - besides, i see no evidence that you are "good at" this.


lifting an unattributed quote as you have done here is an infringement of both copyright and the rules of this site. this little cut-n-paste is from here:

Byzant Kabbalah - The Tree of Life

i will confine myself to saying that nobody who knows anything about kabbalah spells it like that. firstly, it's 'etz, not otz - 'ETz HaYiM if you wish to be precise.


oh, for feck's sake. it's a MOVIE. i've seen it many times. so far, this is the only source you've actually mentioned at all!

b'shalom

bananabrain

They get story lines for movies a lot of times from actual prophecies or theories . As far as the counterpart dont you know your own history? The two staffs given to moses were ashera staffs which by the way is also associated with the medical symbol today. Before the priesthood became more male dominated she (THE female counterpart in jewish texts called the jewishgoddess aka lady of the sea) was worshipped along side with GOD. Everything needs and opposite. Its the creative power and the flow of lifes energy. The concept of an all male creator or some non sexual or combined sexual being is NOT reality. Take a look around. Human was created in the image, and if you know your own text the hebrew doesnt say GOD it says CREATOR(s) singular and plural at the same time, its two one GOD (male) and one GODDESS(female) that even though two are also one as well. Sometimes you can look around at the world and actually see heavenly realities as well instead of some made up concept about GOD

 

[donnann]

i'm sorry, but you are quite mistaken. i am well aware of "hiding something in plain sight", which as a student and practitioner of this particular discipline i have myself done a number of times. i have, as i have said, seen the "kavod" configuration before. i also know enough about how the Name works to know that it DOES NOT REQUIRE A COUNTERPART - it contains its own "counterpart" within it. that is why this mirror thing is a) unnecessary b) extremely misleading and c) at worst, completely blasphemous, leading one to think that there might be two Powers, G!D Forbid. furthermore, there is *no* precedent for this mirroring technique of yours, nor have you supplied any authority, let alone a reputable one based on a legitimate kabbalistic text, many of which i am quite familiar with.


the trouble is, you haven't actually given any reason to suggest that you might actually know what you're talking about. you appear to be making this up as you go along.


but you haven't shown me any biology. you have shown me a symbolic interpretation of human intercourse, which is of course not, biologically how "all things come". you have also rather interestingly used the vowels for a completely different Divine Name, the confusion surrounding which has led to the best known name that is used in error by groups such as the j-witnesses. the vowels themselves are used for completely different purposes in different schools of kabbalah - are you familiar with this?


mathematical or biological? they're not the same thing.


i think i might know what you're getting at here, if you're talking about the "tree of life". however, the ToL is not a biological model, at least not down here in 'assiyah. it is an expression of the concept of being made in the "Divine Image" - thus humans follow this pattern almost unconsciously, it emerges apparently spontaneously, rather like a mandelbrot set, but it is certainly not linkable to the behaviour of the chemical elements at a molecular level.


i've not come across this in kabbalistic texts. perhaps you could provide a source? there is a source for five *dimensions*, perhaps you might tell me at least which text it's in?


that is a better way of putting it, but the term "element" is highly misleading.


but all these opposites are ALREADY WITHIN THE TREE/NAME - that is why you don't need the mirroring thing! did you not know that?


i see what you mean, but these secret gospels of yours are not kabbalistic texts.


no, please don't. zohar is very, very complicated and you will not really understand what you're reading, nor will you be able to contextualise what you are reading without an excellent understanding of judaism, jewish history, texts and approaches. if you must read something, read a book by r. aryeh kaplan.



the ari would be horrified, as would any kabbalist, by this technique of mirroring. lurianic kabbalah is extremely recondite and extremely advanced. i really cannot recommend such a course of action.


look, you don't really seem to understand this stuff. i really suggest you do some proper reading instead.


but from what you're saying, everyone's got this encoded in their dna - besides, i see no evidence that you are "good at" this.


lifting an unattributed quote as you have done here is an infringement of both copyright and the rules of this site. this little cut-n-paste is from here:

Byzant Kabbalah - The Tree of Life

i will confine myself to saying that nobody who knows anything about kabbalah spells it like that. firstly, it's 'etz, not otz - 'ETz HaYiM if you wish to be precise.


oh, for feck's sake. it's a MOVIE. i've seen it many times. so far, this is the only source you've actually mentioned at all!

b'shalom

bananabrain

Oh I know the one your talking about is basically the circle of life. I am sorry I was thinking of an environmental model of a tree in the actual garden literally, a perfect tree that never dies.

As far as encoded in dna when a divine being incarnated into the human body the divine self it imprints on the body. Infinite knowledge of the kingdom of heaven is what I mean. However its still like a child. I like to use movies as a reference to explain what I mean and the fifth element fits. In the movie when they take the one cell left and reconstruct her body she was like a new born and even though she had all the divine knowledge she also had to learn. To me in prophecy fulfillment this would be a female divine being sent from GOD that died but was brought back however it wouldnt have been by some machine like in the movie but an act of god by holy spirit light a process simular to the movie and then the diving down would be a sealing back down to a man. Have you ever heard of the eutriscan mummy , female, that has a scroll written on bandages wrapped around the mummy? Very simular to the context of that movie.

Anyway to get off that subject. Jewish studies really needs to go back to wholeness. I understand the protection of women part. I worked at a jewish deli some years back and jewish men treat their wives very well. The thing is that GOD is totally equal with his counterpart but she is still the female half NOT the male half. There is more power in this than all male power or all female power. Its the power of creation itself. I think there is so much confusion with men thinking that if the female is equal she should be treated like a man. Interaction between men is different than interaction between men and women. When this is confused there are problems.

I understand ancient judaism, as well as other ancient religions. Its the distortions and misconeptions along the way that have developed in these religons that I dont understand. A lot of these misconcepts just are not realistic.

If you were to take the female out of the equation then the male would cease to exist. It works this way for everything to include elements. The reality is that all life including elements and including the creator(s) has one basic pattern. Two one male and one female that even though are two are also one as well. Nothing else has infinite life. This is the only constant flow of life energy. So I do understand a lot more than you think, but do you understand?

 

[donnann]

Oh I know the one your talking about is basically the circle of life. I am sorry I was thinking of an environmental model of a tree in the actual garden literally, a perfect tree that never dies.

As far as encoded in dna when a divine being incarnated into the human body the divine self it imprints on the body. Infinite knowledge of the kingdom of heaven is what I mean. However its still like a child. I like to use movies as a reference to explain what I mean and the fifth element fits. In the movie when they take the one cell left and reconstruct her body she was like a new born and even though she had all the divine knowledge she also had to learn. To me in prophecy fulfillment this would be a female divine being sent from GOD that died but was brought back however it wouldnt have been by some machine like in the movie but an act of god by holy spirit light a process simular to the movie and then the diving down would be a sealing back down to a man. Have you ever heard of the eutriscan mummy , female, that has a scroll written on bandages wrapped around the mummy? Very simular to the context of that movie.

Anyway to get off that subject. Jewish studies really needs to go back to wholeness. I understand the protection of women part. I worked at a jewish deli some years back and jewish men treat their wives very well. The thing is that GOD is totally equal with his counterpart but she is still the female half NOT the male half. There is more power in this than all male power or all female power. Its the power of creation itself. I think there is so much confusion with men thinking that if the female is equal she should be treated like a man. Interaction between men is different than interaction between men and women. When this is confused there are problems.

I understand ancient judaism, as well as other ancient religions. Its the distortions and misconeptions along the way that have developed in these religons that I dont understand. A lot of these misconcepts just are not realistic.

If you were to take the female out of the equation then the male would cease to exist. It works this way for everything to include elements. The reality is that all life including elements and including the creator(s) has one basic pattern. Two one male and one female that even though are two are also one as well. Nothing else has infinite life. This is the only constant flow of life energy. So I do understand a lot more than you think, but do you understand?

Just to go back to the movie again so you get a visual on my point. At the end of the movie the dark planet which if you noticed was evil male sounding consciousness , not saying males are evil, the men in the temple were telling bruce tell her and when he said I love you what came out of her and what got destroyed....think about it

 

[radarmark]

Bananabrain... I truly wish that Kabbalah and Ari and Zohar had remained hidden. Similarly I wish that the Apocalypse of St John never was revealed. Yes, they confuse and confound too many. But, face it Donnann is already influenced. I meant for him to take them and curls himelf up in a corner to read. Guess I was wrong. Sorry.

Peace and love.. radarmark

 

[A Cup Of Tea]

I like to use movies as a reference to explain what I mean and the fifth element fits. In the movie when they take the one cell left and reconstruct her body she was like a new born and even though she had all the divine knowledge she also had to learn.

Actually, she was not like a newborn, she just had to learn all the human history and the English language. She still has memories from before she died and her own language.

I understand that you use movies as an example more than a source, but what would be more useful are your actual sources. if the movie was based on older theories tell us what they are so that we can interpret them for ourselves instead of being told by you how it is. We won't trust you no matter your IQ, or you eduction, or if are medium for superior beings. We here only wish to argue and discuss evidence from our many different perspectives.