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    React to insults--Why turn other Cheek

    As an obvious example of a selfish, self centered hypocrite. If the viewpoint stated by Bhisma or yourself were hard to see, I was falling back on an example that might have been more obvious and in tune with your stated diet. The argument that 'it his nature' or 'it is all good karmic...
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    If God spoke again, would you listen?

    My first question was: What did you do with your parents: leave them, or follow? While I appreciate your reply, it did not answer my question.
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    React to insults--Why turn other Cheek

    The reward I was referring to is the witnessing and betterment of the relationship with a higher power (God), potentially that unscrupulous person, and the improved perspective on things and behavior. People can change. I am saying that taking on a relationship with a known unscrupulous person...
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    React to insults--Why turn other Cheek

    Now there is a real head banger. I certainly did not figure you as an author of the alleged myth, but then you go and say this? Hannibal Lecter (another alleged myth), would be very proud of you. Sort of a, "It is good that I eat him, because it helps carve the sin out of him." Or, "It is good...
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    If God spoke again, would you listen?

    Whereas some of my questions here have not really been answered. I thought I saw a question or two from you, but perhaps I was in error. Suit yourself.
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    React to insults--Why turn other Cheek

    Then I am saying the author of the myth, the author of Bhishma's words, was apparently ignorant of the power of God, and a self centered hypocrite. There are surely many that are more fluid and truthful, in Indian reality.
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    If God spoke again, would you listen?

    So back to my question: What did you do with your parents: leave them, or follow? As you claim to have seen the mind and history of Moses, is that the front, or the back of Moses? Is that from his hind parts, or from your own? Like a solid history and a liquid future. I find the voice and...
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    If God spoke again, would you listen?

    Good thing Jesus was not the average person, and was willing to stay in the jam. :)
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    React to insults--Why turn other Cheek

    Bhisma was apparently ignorant of the power of God, and a self centered hypocrite.
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    If God spoke again, would you listen?

    In the manner that I can truly see, touch, and talk with my parents; yes. I can physically do that with God. In the physical matter that you imply as being the parents; no. I find it false to think of my parents, wife, kids, or people, as merely being what they physically possess.
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    If God spoke again, would you listen?

    "We are your parents and you should follow us, be careful with others and don't follow strangers". Seems like I heard something like that at some point. What did you do with your parents: leave them, or follow?
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    What came first rationalism or democracy?

    Who do you rationally think is responsible for your choice of action? Before God, a higher power, or another, who do you rationally think represents you? "Made you think!"?
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    Rationalism or Religious Pluaralism

    If you have merely studied without much 'Do', then you have not really studied anything at all. Sort of like a well educated student that has many PhD's, and is perhaps book smart, but has no proven hands on experience. The foundation of the thought and the mind is largely set by what we 'Do'...
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    Conjectures and Refutations

    Mind you, I am not the one believing that logic is ever sufficient. It seems you are, some of the time. Did you truly 'do' nothing to establish the bride and the defragger as yours? If your bride is awake, or your defragger is not working, will you likewise 'do' nothing with them? Your care and...
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    Conjectures and Refutations

    "Thou shalt not kill" is a sentence, a command, to NOT go obtain some form of empirical experience, and to NOT take from someone else. On the flip side it could be written: Do forgive. Do cherish the life of others. You are missing the 'Do'. Closed loop feedback control. You describe experience...
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    Conjectures and Refutations

    False. My "real conditions" argument is based on the golden rule, especially the first word, and my own empirical experience. You defined it. The question is whether you make your 'believe' in "I believe you" to be "You believe me", and your 'prove' in "You prove it" to be "I prove it". Your...
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    Conjectures and Refutations

    Bananabrain that sounds great, unless you are faced with, "Do you swear to tell the Truth, the whole Truth, and nothing but the Truth, so help you God?" Well it is really more of a 'working truth', 'for our purposes'. Fine... "Do you swear to tell your working truth, your whole working truth..."...
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    A Two-line Commentary on Jesus, the Christ

    Really, I will be in your home town towards the end of January. Would you also like to advise me that I am not invited to your home town? I found that Tao was a kinder hearted gentleman than some that vested time here, especially Brian. Tao invited me into his home and spent an entire day...
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    A Two-line Commentary on Jesus, the Christ

    Interesting statements from a person that recently claimed the only 'hard truth' comes from deductive logic, arithmetic, or ostensive definitions... with no measurement of reality, and everything else being fuzzy. You don't see your contradiction? I believe the discussion on this thread regards...
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    A Two-line Commentary on Jesus, the Christ

    It is difficult to help when you don't know what it means. One sentence was enough: What kind of help did you mean as you said, 'any help'?
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