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Hi Thomas, Maybe the world needs a little de-sensitivity training in this area or would that be programing. The networks are more that happy to oblige. Anything for a dollar. .02 Joe

Hi Dream, Ahh....... a kind of ....... a type of ....... in a way ....... I was thinking of this the other day, and honestly a lot of days before, but not recent. anyway: So I was going out to my favorite Indian curry place to get my favorite dish, the one they make just about perfect. But...

Hi, no one has mentioned too much soda. One flavor that is popular instead of coffee in the morning has caused stones in coworkers I've know. Joe lets see: eat meat, eat chickens and eat fruits and vegges. don't eat the seeds. LOL

Hi Dream, How many prophets can you think of in the Old Testament, that had problems with leadership? Many! "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away, than for one dot of the law to become void." I think folks like to pass over this part a bit too much. .02 Joe

Hi Dream, reminds me of this, from the NASB Matt 5:45 So that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. Is this not just a continuation of the same teaching from the Old...

Hi Dream, James 1:17 from the NASB 17: Every good thing given and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation of shifting shadow. I don't see how this works with what you quoted here. I'm not so sure Jesus Christ came to start...

Hi Dream, I'm not sure by what you mead by kings and priests. On a literal level there were plenty of both. Joe

Hi Dream, How does the "Jesus" story line work with this idea? Joe

Hi Thomas, There is a family Bible around, it's from my grandfather's generation. Since it's a family treasure and fragile it's not out for all to view. It also contains some of the family history. ( fwiw: he, my grandfather is also from Ireland.) Would I be wrong to think that your family...

Hi, Just a little more off topic: Maybe we should start a thread on whether it's Paul or Peter that has the bulk of influence on RCC thought. I vote Paul. .02 Joe

Hi Nick the Pilot, Yes it's true. In my family, the generation before me, were not allowed to read the Bible. Joe

Hi Thomas, So the concept of infallibility from acts 10, would that be what happened in Joppa or what happened in Caesarea? The use of Luke 22:32 in the quotes that you used above insinuate that Christ prays for each pope like He did for Peter? I also get the feel that in the quotes there...

Hi, I'm not to sure you can blame this one on Nick the Pilot. After Vatican II, it seems that the RCC didn't know what to teach. (at least from my understanding.) Joe

Good morning Thomas, (well over here it's morning) Being as some of this thread is about reading the Bible: have you read the Bible cover to cover? Do you have a favorite translation? Joe

Hi Nick the Pilot, I think Thomas has given us an answer. He doesn't agree with what the RCC did at those times nor does he have an answer of why. He has tried to introduce an idea that the RCC is somehow a different entity today than it was at those times. Could be, if you look back through...

Hi, Is this still an interesting thread? I think the point here is whether the authority of the RCC is real or imagined. Events in world history lead some of us to question the validity of claims made by the RCC. As I have read the Bible, it has shown me that some of the doctrine it holds...

Hi Thomas, I realize this is going off topic here, but I have gotten somewhat confused. (not to hard sometimes) What you are calling scripture, want to make sure I'm on the same page here, that's the book that Christians call the Bible, including the Old Testament and the New Testament? Joe

Hi, This comes from myself, (and might not please too many members here) but why would anyone want to be even remotely associated with the RCC? I don't see any big changes in them, from the time these things were done, looking back to before and since. Their core philosophy hasn't really...

Hi, I've been told this has something to do with Haile Selassie visiting Jamaica, which was in a severe drought, and while he was there the rain started to fall. Joe