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what is the 'returning' or 'coming' to bring to mankind?
what exactly will be new 'tomorrow' from this?
someone said the 'seals' will be opened....
my opinion is ......... 'Understanding', then 'world Peace'....................
but what tangible changes to knowledge will make the differences?
its all happening in this time of the end DANIEL 12;4![]()
Such if you walked into this world and had no idea about any religious doctrine, what would you expect to be shared to you, pure and true, as if from God?
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matthew 24;14 Daniel 2;44
its all happening in this time of the end![]()
However, how will they call on him in whom they have not put faith? How, in turn, will they put faith in him of whom they have not heard? How, in turn, will they hear without someone to preach?
How, in turn, will they preach unless they have been sent forth? Just as it is written: "How comely are the feet of those who declare good news of good things!" ROMANS 10;14-15
The heralding and declaring of the GOODNEWS is going on globally . its all happening in this time of the end
So which is the second coming? Abraham, Moses, jacob ishmael.... darwin, einstein........... which of the whole gang of contributers are that He you are mentioning?Bishadi, I expect the second coming of Jesus to be similar to his first coming. Jesus came as the second Adam because Adam and his family failed in establishing the Kingdom of Heaven on earth through the 3 blessings that God gave them in Genesis,
Seems Joseph accepting a bride already with child, was against the law.After the purification of a lineage, Jesus could come as a sinless child with God's seed.
but he walked out of the cave, and livedBecause of his crucifixion, he could not established a family
Now you suggest we have a 3rd jesus.......... coolbut he brought spiritual salvation through his victorious resurrection on Calvary. Together with the Holy Spirit (symbolizing Eve) they are preparing the world to receive a third Adam that he will annoint with the same mission.
Do you know your lineage (documented) that far into history to 'connect' to it?God's will in Genesis does not change. Our fallen blood is tainted by the fall. The Messiah comes to establish God's lineage completely separated from the fall so all mankind can connect to it.
We are still born with the original sin. God will not share his children who are connected to an other father (Satan) as Jesus called us. ("You are doing the will of your father")
If that mission was so important then why John lose his head? Is that how saints are born?Many phenomenas in the last days are metaphors of what will take place. Jesus will not come on a cloud in the same way Elijah did not come back on a chariot of fire but gave his mission to John the Baptist that was born on earth.
Many Jewish people were also waiting for Jesus to come in a supernatural fasion. He did not. We should not make the same mistake
So which is the second coming? Abraham, Moses, jacob ishmael.... darwin, einstein........... which of the whole gang of contributers are that He you are mentioning?
Seems Joseph accepting a bride already with child, was against the law....but he walked out of the cave, and lived
Now you suggest we have a 3rd jesus.......... cool
Do you know your lineage (documented) that far into history to 'connect' to it?
is the original sin why God said........ 22And Jehovah God saith, `Lo, the man was as one of Us, as to the knowledge of good and evil; and now, lest he send forth his hand, and have taken also of the tree of life, and eaten, and lived to the age,' --perhaps why he provided clothing 21And Jehovah God doth make to the man and to his wife coats of skin, and doth clothe them
If that mission was so important then why John lose his head? Is that how saints are born?
but if you are representing Jesus was already here 'twice' as well coming back........... isn't that a 'supernatural fashion'..........?
perhaps.... i am reading your post wrong?
where is that written?Adam is the first Adam
Jesus came as the second Adam
hang on, jesus will not be here, but will be here to annoint someone?Someone in the position of a third Adam will be annointed by Jesus to complete his mission. He is not coming back himself but will annoint someone to complet his mission)
who was Joseph?Jesus' s father was Zachary. Marie spent 3 month in his home, then gave birth 6 months later. There are many famous paintings showing that relationship.
Like with Tamar, Ruth, Rahab, Bathsaba, Marie committed adultery for God in order to reverse what happened at the fall. Her womb had to be prepared to provide a sinless child. The lineage of Jesus had to be cut off form the fall.
is that the little mexican kid? hesus?We have a second person with the mission of Jesus who came in the position to restore Adam who became fallen
what fall?We all go back to 2 first ancestors that were kicked out of the garden. Our blood lineage was tainted by the fall
if i am not mistaken, herod thought jesus was john the baptist and that he already cut his head off.John the Baptist at first recognized Jesus as a Messiah through a vision but then later he lost faith. He should have been Jesus first disciple instead of getting involved in Herod marital affairs. From jail, he sent his disciples to ask Jesus if he was the one to come. Jesus was really offended.
i am reading your postsYou are reading me wrong.
Jesus was here once as a replacement for Adam.
you said he is annointing someone toHe is not coming back himsefl.
He will give his mission to someone else that God is preparing.
where is that written?
hang on, jesus will not be here, but will be here to anoint someone? You are scaring me
1Corinthians 15:21-22
"So you see, just as death came into the world through a man, Adam, now the resurrection from the dead has begun through another man, Christ. Everyone dies because all of us are related to Adam, the first man. But all who are related to Christ, the other man, will be given new life."New Living Translation
For jewish people, the word Messiah in Hebrew means "the anointed".
Jesus can anoint somebody from the spirit world.
He does not have to be here physically. Jesus said that John the Baptist was Elijah. It does not mean that Elijah came back on earth. He received his mission spiritually.
I will respond the rest of your comments on a separte post. I hope you can hear me out and give me the opportunity to respond
what is the 'returning' or 'coming' to bring to mankind?
what exactly will be new 'tomorrow' from this?
someone said the 'seals' will be opened....
my opinion is ......... 'Understanding', then 'world Peace'....................
but what tangible changes to knowledge will make the differences?
It does not matter what version you pick they all agree that through Adam, we all died and inherited the original sin and Jesus came as the second Adam to restore Adam's failure and be our new ancestor.22for even as in Adam all die, so also in the Christ all shall be made alive,
then if this is true, then why is not ALL of mankind given the same tools?.
Luke 1-17 And he will go on before the Lord, in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the fathers to their children and the disobedient to the wisdom of the righteous—to make ready a people prepared for the Lord."
John the Baptist denied he was Elijah but people of the time were waiting for Elijah to come first before the Messiah as the prophecies promised.
Mal 4: 5-6 "See, I will send you the prophet Elijah before that great and dreadful day of the LORD comes.
Mt 17-10 The disciples asked him, "Why then do the teachers of the law say that Elijah must come first?"
Jesus replied
Mt 17: 11-13 "To be sure, Elijah comes and will restore all things. 12But I tell you, Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, ..............13Then the disciples understood that he was talking to them about John the Baptist.
The failure of John the Baptist made it so difficult for Jesus to be accepted
In any case, this is a perfect example that Elijah did not come back on a chariot of fire but John the Baptist received his mission.
This is common in the Bible. When someone fail, it has to be done again.
Abraham failed in his first offering (animals) but succeded the second time with Isaac. He established a successful foundation of faith. The second time it was a greater offering.
Jacob and Esau restored the failure of Cain and Abel is another major example. Jacob was victorious this time.
There is a reason why God prefer the second son many times throughout the bible, very often with the complicity of their mother. Have you noticed ?
Why do you think, it was God's will for Haggar to sleep with her father in law after disguising herself as a prostitute ?
i will try, but i will not accept revised revisions as the last word.if we need to go back to aramaic, hebrew we can, by give me a break on the monkey business............. i don't play there AT ALL!
You can pick any version you want.
if original sin means that God will sayIt does not matter what version you pick they all agree that through Adam, we all died and inherited the original sin
you still haven't shared that in scripturesand Jesus came as the second Adam to restore Adam's failure and be our new ancestor.
then if this is true, then why is not ALL of mankind given the same tools?.
What?The failure of John the Baptist made it so difficult for Jesus to be accepted
There is a reason why God prefer the second son many times throughout the bible, very often with the complicity of their mother. Have you noticed ?
Why do you think, it was God's will for Haggar to sleep with her father in law after disguising herself as a prostitute ?
wow!
you have your belief and different in many extremes....
in that one post, you have shared differences of belief beyond most any religion i have ever observed
the closest rendition of truly 'created' opinion that i personally have observed..........
just too far out to discuss
you still haven't shared that in scriptures
wow,you have your belief and different in many extremes....
in that one post, you have shared differences of belief beyond most any religion i have ever observed
the closest rendition of truly 'created' opinion that i personally have observed..........
Re: If Jesus is to return; what is HE bringing?
Hopefully the beers..
Adam didn't fail, he made a choice and God approvedand Jesus came as the second Adam to restore Adam's failure and be our new ancestor
Corinthians 15:45
So it is written: "The first man Adam became a living being"[a]; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.
Adam didn't fail, he made a choice and God approved[/quote}
Our first ancestors fell away from God and were kicked out of the Garden. This resulted in the evil world we are living in.
God has toiled for thousands of years to bring back his children and prepare humanity for one man to restore what happened at the Fall.
All human beings are sufferings. God our spiritual parent is suffering the most because He loves all his children including A&E
My beliefs are compassionate.