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oh...so you only want real young active in shape nude bodies. All of the other nude photos & nude places of older folks do not interest you.
That is called jail bait.
So finally after all this holier than thou crap you admit it. It is not the beauty of the human form, it is not nature and nudism or prudish nature of the law that concerns you. It is the fact that these laws inhibit sexual desires and you feel your Alice should be able to feed your fetishes.
I'm glad you've surfaced after all these posts. The concensus was correct, you'd dig your own hole.
Oh and by the way Alice and all other girls take note, this is the reason you shouldn't send these pictures to your friends. Because there are those out there just waiting for them...
Nick, talk about exposing yourself in public, you just have.
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Naturally I have my own views on sex and the body from all my research into human "being" and the human condition in the context of human potential. But this thread suggests that because we declare the body of a young girl as pornographic, it means that God as its creator must also be a pornagrapher. This is an example of our inability to teach anything to a kid that is astute enough to ask deeper questions. If anything, collective ignorance just leads to unintended child abuse and all the expressions of sexual perversion you've been posting..
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No Wil, it just means you are so accustomed to expressions of righteous indignation for the purpose of self justification, you've sacrificed your open mind.
You do not understand sex, sex energy, and its potential as a creative energy. You are completely oblivious of the harm done by confusing kids by inhibiting sexual desire and calling them pornographic rather then helping them put it into a higher context so they can become psychologically normal.
What is the beauty of human form? Does proportion have any meaning for you? Is there an objective beauty or is it purely subjective and conditioned? You throw these concepts around without understanding and express righteous indignation that someone would actually be willing to think more than two inches in front of their nose.
Your way, not mine.
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you mean your deep teaching and soliciting of children taking and posting nude pics of themselves should be legal... oh ...that is deep.
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until of course they become overweight & out of shape adults then you lose interest, while you need to find some more kids under the age of 14 to get them to take nude pics to help make them become psychonormal according to you. Yes indeed. Nude pics of children make them become psychonormal according to Nick. The more the merrier.
That is called preying on a child's sexual ignorance and curiosity.
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We are at an impasse. You define a child's body as pornograhic warranting their arrest and I say if this is true, God is a pornagrapher. I don't believe it.
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No, I define people like you who advocates to make nude pics of children legal as a pornagrapher.
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Alice shakes her head in disbelief and says: "We share some pictures with each other. I'm arrested for child pornagraphy and this guy goes off the deep end. Is this all there is? My naked ass simply cannot be the cause of some 45 year old pervert and refuse to accept it being called pornographic to appease these uptight adults living in the dark ages. Sheesh! gimme a break." Alice shrugs in disbelief as she lowers her head obviously confused.
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you are the one who is very confused on the matter.
it is the fact that you indulge in those pics that makes you the pornagrapher, not the childs body itself.
YOU are the child pornagrapher for having or making those pics.
you share pics of young children and you are going to jail. the child might get off easy, but you, the adult will not. you don't like that fact.
You have no business looking at nude pics of children and you had better believe the mothers and fathers of the children are going to do everything they can to get you behind bars, if that is what you do, to protect their children from you.
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Rockspider, cos thats what you are...
She may think like that, NickA, but that is because she is a child. and doesnt understand. Although, ask any 14yr old male or female and they think that they know it all. they dont.......... they are children and only as they get older will they understand.
They are immature, and when you preach your "pornobabble" (my word), you tried very hard to cover up what you really meant. You spew words like sexual energy?? rockspider, things like you are parasites and you drain the total energy from the young.
But there is good news amongst all this vile pornobabble. You are sick, but there is a cure......
It cost about 30 cents, and its about 1half incheslong....
Its called a bullet.
Dondi
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Your Alice doesn't seem to have an ounce of decency or morality. Nor can she discern the dangers that she is exposing herself to. She will be a victim of her newfound freedom, a freedom with no responsibility, no accountability, to her family, to her friends, to society, to herself. She will slowly digress into a morass of good intentions that will lead to her ruin. What's next? Nude video texting? Oh, but she'll need to profit from all this. So why not have someone pay to see her. Afterall, she's liberated enough to make her own decisions about her own body. By the time she's 18, she'll be a 'professional' model, like so many before her who've taken a likewise path. She'll take the world by storm, you'll see. Her body will empower her. And she will come to grips with who she is. A goddess to be beholdened, by both male and female alike, envied for her brassness and tenacity to drive upward to fame and fortune, pressures be damned.
Statistically, however, she'll find herself at the mercy of slick agents who will take advantage of her. Nude video texting is only the beginning. There is money in tube sites and cheap productions in soloing. Ah, but it's only a few steps forward into the skank world of the adult film industry....
Did you say that Alice is your daughter, Nick?
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I didn't make these picutures, the kids did and I haven't even seen them so must go by reports that they were both nude and partially nude. You have the problem IMO who along with others insist on calling her body pornographic and support prosecuting her. At the same time you are incapable of saying anything to her she might respect. I'll stick with Alice. Such attitudes and accusations are not worthy of respect.
greymare
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if alice is the 14yr old in question she needs help. but not from the rockspiders like you.
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Actually alice would make a great daughter. She has the courage to ask questions and reason out of the box. She would make a fine daughter. Her choice according to you is either becoming swallowed by the perverts or becoming a a politically correct cell in the body of the "Great Beast." Some choice! Poor kid.
But there is hope for some. I recently watched the movie "The Karate Kid Four" again. The girl was not politically correct but was lucky enough to find an alternative to secularism including religious secularism, fundamentalism, and psychobabble. She found a man of wisdom and common sense she could learn from that could serve to allow her to create an objective psychological foundation within which to eventually put the question of sex and the body.
Such people of wisdom are few and far between and could actually relate to a girl that was sextexting. Most kids like my fictional Alice will be doomed to select one of the above normal alternatives with the chance of becoming one of what Jesus described as "The dead burying their dead."
greymare
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why doesnt it surprise me that you would immerse yourself in a childs movie, and you use this to enforce your pornobabble.
You of course see yourself as the wise man to instruct and lead this child, yes?
rockspider.
and now are you trying to convince us that Jesus advocates this.........????
Good luck with that.......
You of course see yourself as the wise man to instruct and lead this child, yes?
rockspider.
and now are you trying to convince us that Jesus advocates this.........????
Good luck with that.......
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I never said the body alone is porn. please show where I said that.
what i said was the person viewing them and making them are the pornagraphers. the human body alone does not constitute porn any more than two consenting adults in private does.
This is where you fail in every stupid debate you create, by putting words into peoples mouths and exalting yourself higher than everyone else using reverse psychology to appeal to your own pathetic imaginations.
I think everyone here knows by now, and most likely everywhere you go, you have no respect for those who disagree with you. That goes without you admitting to it.
I already gave you what i would do and you ignored it. if the child wants to be an offender more than once, she will not get off on her second account of sharing nude pics of children because she does not respect herself enough to respect anyone else and she can do time with the adults by learning the hard way.
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It is only your psychobabble that could see admiring men of widom as only for children. It isn't a matter of me doing anything but rather that if a kid is lucky in this day and age governed by the hypocritical natural results of fundamentalism, secularism, and psychobabbel that it is posible to meet people of wisdom actually capable of talking to a girl about sextexting without all the righteous indignation expressed on this thread.
A small chance but it is a chance.
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the law according to nick
-all the children who take and share nude pics of themselves are the great children and above all morality and laws and those who do not share in nude pics of children are the perverts. -the law according to nick.
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