Locking the Theosophy Thread

OK, so Theosophy says Abraham departed India or Iran (instead of Chaldea) for Palestine? Is that right? Or, did the group Abraham belonged to leave India or Iran for Chaldea, and then Abraham subsequently left Chaldea for Palestine?
 
Nick the Pilot said:
Such re-writes are seen as clear examples of spritual inferiority, according to Theosophy.
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One thing that I do find disturbing about Theosophy is its obsession with hierarchy. Dangerous, imo, as hierarchies and bureaucracies are prone to corruption, as well as corrupting individuals who become obsessed with the hierarchial overlay...
 
seattlegal said:
Let's push this line of reasoning into the area of the absurd to show where it leads: If you want to bring Hitler and speculate as to the source of his inspiration in his campaign to commit genocide against the Jews, one could equally ask what was the inspiration for the ancient Israelites to go on their genocidal rampages recounted in the Hebrew scriptures? Jeez. :rolleyes:
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Add to this the supposed fact that hitler was part Jewish (on his dad's side).
Allegedly his dad fooled around with the maid.
Maybe he was mad at good old dad and held it against him.
I don't know and this is a pretty hot potato.
*lobs the hot spud and runs*
 
Seattlegal,

Sorry, I do not know where Theosophy says Abraham departed from. Should you wish to research it, I can direct to some Theosophical literature.

Theosophy describes a hierarchy that is divine and superhuman, so it is a hierarchy that cannot fall prey to weaknesses such as corruption. A human can only join the Earth's hierarchy of divine and semi-divine leaders by achieving enlightenment, which makes such a person immune to things like corruption.
 
Shawn,

I agree that this is a very emotionally charged topic for many people. Millions of people have died because of the things we are discussing here. We can only hope that these discussion help to bring all of the various groups of this discussion closer together.
 
Nick the Pilot said:
As a humorous anecdote, Theosophy points out a mistake by the people who re-wrote Genesis: they mistakenly left part of the original story intact.
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And Nick, not so humorously, who are these "people who re-wrote Genesis" ? Do you think people do not know who these unnamed people you are referring to ? Have you considered that "the people" might find it insulting and offensive that you claim they have re-written Genesis ? And you said I am naive about interfaith dialogue ? :(.
 
Nick the Pilot said:
Theosophy describes a hierarchy that is divine and superhuman, so it is a hierarchy that cannot fall prey to weaknesses such as corruption.
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LMAO! :D
What about the corrupting sins of pride and jealousy that have been described in the "jealous gods" and the fall of the prideful angelic creatures?
A human can only join the Earth's hierarchy of divine and semi-divine leaders by achieving enlightenment, which makes such a person immune to things like corruption.
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LMAO! If you think that enlightenment gives you immunity from corruption, I would say that you really haven't found enlightenment...
 
Oh, Avi, one more thing. According to Theosophy, the name Abraham means A-Brahman, or not of the Brahmins. This refers to how the Semites broke away from the Aryan leaders. The Brahmins of India are descendents of the first Aryans. Even the name Abraham speaks of the historical division between Aryans and Semites.
 
Nick the Pilot said:
Theosophy defines race as one of the five races that have appeared so far.
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Nick, everyone knows that you cannot define a word by putting that word in the definition. What are you talking about ???
 
Avi, I am very aware that some people are insulted by the idea that Genesis may have been rewritten. I do not let that deter me from believing it was rewritten. It does not show a lack of respect on my part.

I notice that you do not wish to discuss the two examples of re-write I have provided, you merely wish to flame me.
 
Nick the Pilot said:
Oh, Avi, one more thing. According to Theosophy, the name Abraham means A-Brahman, or not of the Brahmins. This refers to how the Semites broke away from the Aryan leaders. The Brahmins of India are descendents of the first Aryans. Even the name Abraham speaks of the historical division between Aryans and Semites.
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Isn't the Hebrew pronunciation more like Av-ra-ham? (When it was translated into Greek, it became Ab-ra-ham, because Greek does not have the "v" sound.) Wasn't Abraham's name originally Abram? (or Av-ram?)
 
Nick the Pilot said:
Avi, I am very aware that some people are insulted by the idea that Genesis may have been rewritten. I do not let that deter me from believing it was rewritten. It does not show a lack of respect on my part.
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Err, Nick, isn't respect something considered on both sides, one shows respect and the other feels that respect is shown ???

Now you were the person who gave me the big lecture about what a major league interfaith dialoguer you are vs. me being a beginner. If you know that people are insulted by your theories of biblical revision, don't you think they should be approached sensitively ? In your phlegmatic style, you say, "it does not deter me from believing it was rewritten". Do you have any proof of this, other than what Ms. B told you ?

I notice that you do not wish to discuss the two examples of re-write I have provided, you merely wish to flame me.
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I do not consider my comment flaming (just as you do not consider your comment disrespectful). I am just starting to review your last post and I am pointing out that the first line is illogical. Don't you agree ?

Next we can deal with the second sentence.
 
SG,

I am aware of the Abram spelling in the Bible. I not up on all of the intricacies of the Hebrew version, etc., of all the spellings. I am merely relaying the Theosophical story of how the name A-Brahman was used by the Semites to proclaim their very non-Aryan-ness. I am not sure how the story of the name Abram --> Abraham relates to the story of the split between Aryans and Semites, but it sounds like a fascinating story.
 
Nick the Pilot said:
SG,

I am aware of the Abram spelling in the Bible. I not up on all of the intricacies of the Hebrew version, etc., of all the spellings. I am merely relaying the Theosophical story of how the name A-Brahman was used by the Semites to proclaim their very non-Aryan-ness. I am not sure how the story of the name Abram --> Abraham relates to the story of the split between Aryans and Semites, but it sounds like a fascinating story.
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Well, we can agree that Abraham did leave the land where he was dwelling and departed for Palestine. What does Theosophy say about Abraham's encounter with Melchizedek?
 
Nick, I have been reviewing the "Secret Doctrine", and I am curious, have you ever read this document ?

It turns out that no less than 8 of the chapters is about race issues. Didn't you say that race is not a major issue in Theosophy ?
 
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