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i have taken this to an islamic forum, and so far had some insightful and kind responses a world of difference to what I got here ![Frown :( :(](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7)
do you anything about Islam ?
(lol) apparently, you are the only one here who does... rite?
... with your extensive eye for all things "spiritual".
You already disregarded all the opinions on this thread that were offered to you in kindness.i have taken this to an islamic forum, and so far had some insightful and kind responses a world of difference to what I got here![]()
i should know more about it than someone who has never been a muslim,
I don't believe it to be the style of the forum, but the folks here do tend to respond in kind. Read your original post...read it as a person who respects Islam, change the word Islam to Christianity if you must.sorry if i have offended you Code.
but actually yes most of the responses to my questions were unkind and unhelpful and frankly rather upsetting which seems to be the style on this forum, Neti's post was useful I did not understand Thomas's post.
sorry if i have offended you Code.
but actually yes most of the responses to my questions were unkind and unhelpful and frankly rather upsetting...
sorry if i have offended you Code.
but actually yes most of the responses to my questions were unkind and unhelpful and frankly rather upsetting which seems to be the style on this forum, Neti's post was useful I did not understand Thomas's post.
Accepted.![]()
well lets close the forum thenThe quest to locate spirituality in anything is a personal one G2G. So asking other people the question which you posed in this thread, is kind of besides the point, is it not?
well lets close the forum then![]()
You focus on the ones contained in the Quran, and dont worry about the mullahs in the mosque.seriously though how do you cope with all the laws and rules ?
Are these rules in the Quran? (no)for example if you are a guy which I think you are, do you sit down to pee and when you are done do you leave the toilet with the correct foot first, or do you not even go that far with all the rules ?
I can write an entire essay trying to answer your questions G2G, but it wont help you unless you make a concerted effort to understand Islam (the Quran) yourself.
You focus on the ones contained in the Quran, and dont worry about the mullahs in the mosque.
Are these rules in the Quran? (no)
So why are you so bothered by them?
for example if you are a guy which I think you are, do you sit down to pee...
Is there a spiritual side to Islam ?
I am only aware of lots and lots of rules but deeper than that is there anymore to it than that ?
Hello, GlorytoGod,
If you are really interested in knowing the spiritual side of Islam, and what is the wisdom between "rules", it would be my all pleasure.
Now, supposing the one thing we were instructed, on entry into a spiritual discipline, was to pray every day in the certain knowledge that everyone will get to heaven but us ... how welcome would that be?When blessed Antony was praying in his cell, a voice spoke to him, saying, "Antony, you have not yet come to the measure of the the tanner who is in Alexandria." When he heard this, the old man arose and took his stick and hurried into the city. When he had found the tanner...he said to him, "Tell me about your work, for today I have left the desert and come here to see you."
He replied, "I am not aware that I have done anything good. When I get up in the morning, before I sit down to work, I say that the whole of this city, small and great, will go into the Kingdom of God because of their good deeds, while I alone will go into eternal punishment because of my evil deeds. Every evening I repeat the same words and believe them in my heart."
When blessed Antony heard this he said, "My son, you sit in your own house and work well, and you have the peace of the Kingdom of God; but I spend all my time in solitude with no distractions, and I have not come near the measure of such words."
One way to look at the 'rules' is a guide to mindfulness.
Of course Islam and the forms of expression are rather varied, just like Christianity.because its Islam and thats what I was taught when converted.
I was thinking the same thing. But I'm not at all sure that outward practices or the observance of rules signify religiosity. Consider the "rule" to pray 5 times a day. I would think very religious people might say to themselves: why limit it to only 5 times?... so the faithful Moslem who, for example, goes to the toilet as instructed does so in the belief that the yoke of discipline is not a burden...