I didn't forget ;) I just... Didn't wish to swamp the thread with failed jewish messiahs... There are tons... Even the ones I mentioned I only did in brief lol cause that could swamp the thread too lol..

But yeah again, same tune with Bar Giora.... War>Revolt>Power struggle>Need for hope>Messiah Claim>ending:Tears>Fail.
As for Jesus I'd doubt he was seeking glory as I doubt he had long hair. I do deffo think he was a healer. Personal opinion though.
Stirring the pot thar mister 17th?

All the world is a melting pot

stir stir

Double double, toil and trouble
Fire burn and cauldron bubble

Fair is foul and foul is fair. Hover through the fog and filthy air

Behold as we generate more flatulence and make the world more smelly.
Be still as the odor disperses and becomes a fragrance.
Wait as the pungent aromas gather to stimulate our imagination.
We watch in awe as these clouds of pleasure guide us to more erotic and amorous thoughts.
Nothing was ever too good to be true until now.
We find ourselves aroused and start seeking out partners for cohabitation.