The debate regarding the age of our planet...

Diagoras said:
From what I have read here so far you have to post that on at least 20 more threads. The hatred for the non-believer is palpable.
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Almost as palpable as the hatred coming *from* the non-believers.

Seems disingenuous at best to level widespread insult and then cry foul when the insult is returned in kind. Don't dish it out if you're not willing to eat the same stuff you're serving.
 
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juantoo3 said:
Almost as palpable as the hatred coming *from* the non-believers.

Seems disingenuous at best to level widespread insult and then cry foul when the insult is returned in kind. Don't dish it out if you're not willing to eat the same stuff you're serving.
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He says then scuttles away thinking no-one has noticed he has failed to verify his outlandish claims.
 
Like I said, let's have some civility, please - I'm sure it';s not entirely unattainable that people with different interests can discuss their faith, spirituality, or scientific interests, without being personally challenged for having a different opinion. Disagreement, discussion, yes - personal attacks, no. :)
 
Diagoras said:
He says then scuttles away thinking no-one has noticed he has failed to verify his outlandish claims.
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My so-called "outlandish" claims are laid out quite succinctly in the references already provided, the same references you snubbed without even so much as a look. At least my mind isn't closed to the realm of possibilities...

Ta ta...its been nice to ignore you.
 
juantoo3 said:
My so-called "outlandish" claims are laid out quite succinctly in the references already provided, the same references you snubbed without even so much as a look. At least my mind isn't closed to the realm of possibilities...

Ta ta...its been nice to ignore you.
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Your first reference is not a reference at all. It is a thread here. As you make no effort to clarify which part of the thread you think vital to the defence of your bold but unsubstantiated claim my conclusion was that you were not interested in an honest discussion. Your two subsequent posts only confirm that I made a good call. I note from your post count you are an old timer round here, perhaps you have a disdain for new people. The guy you attacked with your pedantic and aggressive post that brought a reaction from me was also a newbie like me...only he seems not to have returned. You are not willing to engage with new people here on a level playing field, you expect them to read your history of posts before they could possible have a valid comment to make. Then the mods come jump in for you. What kind of place is this? Oh yeh...I forgot....its full of the religious...
 
Diagoras said:
Then the mods come jump in for you. What kind of place is this? Oh yeh...I forgot....its full of the religious...
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IT's worth noting that as people spend time in the forums, they develop an understanding of the sensbilities and attitudes of other members - and especially where their personal limits lay.

What is disappointing is that you appear to find a gathering of people with religious viewpoints so distasteful that you feel obliged to attack them for it.

Let's make it clear - this is an interfaith site, and the intention is to provide as constructive as possible a platform for interfaith discussions.

Anyone with no interest in that and joins just for tyre kicking has no place in this forum.

Time to work out what appeals to you on the site.
 
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What is disappointing is that you appear to find a gathering of people with religious viewpoints so distasteful that you feel obliged to attack them for it.
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When someone says something offensive, insulting or disparaging, I tend to find third person references only mildly offensive. It's the second person references that tend to really strike deep into a person's psyche. I have far less of a problem with people talking about a particular group especially if it's outside the forums. When people start talking about fellow forum members in disparaging terms, that's when it gets ugly.

Talking about "religious people" in the forums might be included in the list of sins against fellow forum members. At least one of the newbies has been particularly insulting towards me and it's extremely annoying. It ruins my day. I prefer to talk about views and opinions. If I ever do talk about other forum members it's usually for teasing and joking.

If a person thinks my ideas are stupid, I would prefer it if they told me that my ideas were stupid, rather than saying that *I* am stupid. Talking disparagingly about my views and opinions is less discomforting than speaking disparagingly of me. There's a difference.
 
I said:
IT's worth noting that as people spend time in the forums, they develop an understanding of the sensbilities and attitudes of other members - and especially where their personal limits lay.

What is disappointing is that you appear to find a gathering of people with religious viewpoints so distasteful that you feel obliged to attack them for it.

Let's make it clear - this is an interfaith site, and the intention is to provide as constructive as possible a platform for interfaith discussions.

Anyone with no interest in that and joins just for tyre kicking has no place in this forum.

Time to work out what appeals to you on the site.
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I have faith in people. I have faith in logic. I have faith in logical scientists to work together and against each other to discern testable truths about the nature of reality. This is my faith. Are you trying to tell me that the religious have a monopoly on faith. That religious faith is the only faith that can be voiced here?

It was Juantoo3 that jumped in with a childish but scathing attack focussed more on playing with phrases in a pedantic manner than addressing the assertions raised. And since has refused to give grounds for his own spurious claims. So tell me, is this place only for old timers? Is it only for those with a firmly established and intractable dogma?

I have read other threads here where personal attacks are vicious and I see no hint of intervention from you. Why is that?

I have a very good reason to be here. I have a broad knowledge of what science can or cannot claim and of what it does and does not claim. I am here to take part in discussions and to clarify false or erroneous assertions. If you do not feel that this is a valid purpose please feel free to say so.
 
Is it just me, or has the subject of this thread been lost entirely? I don't mind people debating one another, but, please, at least stick to the original topic. If you're going to move into the realm of personal gripes, why not start your own thread regarding them? :rolleyes:
 
i believe everything was already dated when it was created. i mean there wasnt baby trees, but they were created as full grown. not baby animals, but full grown. even humans were put in the world full grown. stars were already existing and for the light to reach earth there had to be many many years for that to happen.
 
BlaznFattyz said:
i believe everything was already dated when it was created. i mean there wasnt baby trees, but they were created as full grown. not baby animals, but full grown. even humans were put in the world full grown. stars were already existing and for the light to reach earth there had to be many many years for that to happen.
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You have been blaz'n too many fatties there dude. come back to earth.
 
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