Nick the Pilot
Well-Known Member
Lunitik,
Thanks for the meditation exercises.
Thanks for the meditation exercises.
Lunitik,
Thanks for the meditation exercises.
As you claim to comprehend your core self, ego, soul, spirit, and faith, or faiths, then good for you. By your words I don't see it. If fact, when you say we, I think it is a result of you projecting yourself and your experience upon others. I can see you doing that quite a bit in your words. I think perhaps by the pursuit of trying to see what you can't see, except through interaction with somone, you have a delusion. Sort of like a person who thinks that they know someone, but then later discovers that they did not really know them, or even themselves.
Regarding your words and understanding, I think the english words: soul, spirit, ego, and faith have a lot of variations in the world. In recognition and respect of the language or people that the word 'ego' comes from, which was not from India or China, or even the UK, ego is the core you, which you identify with a little as you use the english word, 'I', or in your case, 'we'.
I believe some thought time on applying that golden rule, with humbleness, can help remedy that.
Religion is the result, the merging of oneself into the whole - the re-binding of plurality into singularity.
Religion is the result, the merging of oneself into the whole - the re-binding of plurality into singularity.
Great definition of religion! It reminds me of the Bab calling himself the "Primal Point," which brings to mind the big bang and a singularity.
Also, in what ways do you see contemplation and meditation as different?
There is a difference between meditation and "emptying one's mind". One focusses on a specific issue, and the other, focusses on the nothingness...Contemplation is a thought process, meditation is a conscious process. In meditation, there is no thought, for you are attempting to go beyond body, mind and emotions. The focus of meditation is to discover what consciousness is, to watch consciousness itself at work. To do this, for instance in the Buddhist school, we are taught to direct our watching towards our body, is this us? If we can watch it it is not us. Then we can watch the mind, if we can watch it, again, it cannot be us. Emotions, where are they stemming from, is this us? It cannot be for we can watch it. We must go deeper, what is deeper? Enlightenment is explained by many as exactly this, the watcher watching itself. Your consciousness itself has cycled - as every particle in existence is in cyclical motion - through to itself. The is meditation to me, contemplation is merely considering an idea and taking it to its threshold, they arrive at the same place if completed, but most of the time contemplation starts and ends with mind alone.
I fail to see where a spiritual person has to be tethered to a religious behavior (unless it is the taking care of orphans and widows, that is a religious behavior I can applaud).
Me thinks we are losing sight of the original purpose of this thread.
Daniel (of Karate Kid fame), was "religious", but it took Mister Myagi to teach "Daniel san", what it meant to be spiritual...does that make sense?![]()
I simply asked a question...and followed it with an observation...This whole thread is about religiousness, about spirituality. That is all it is about, so I do not see how it can be said we are going off topic. If you do not wish to discuss the depths of religiousness, of spirituality, that is fine, but to limit it to the conceptions of organized householder traditions is wrong I think. To limit it merely to morals and ethics misses the point, these are taught based on the results of certain figures upon spiritual realizations. They are given for those that do not understand the true nature of religion so they might still treat each other with compassion and respect.
There is a difference between meditation and "emptying one's mind". One focusses on a specific issue, and the other, focusses on the nothingness...
I simply asked a question...and followed it with an observation...
Me thinks we are losing sight of the original purpose of this thread.
I do not see your statements (nor anyone elses), as an attack...forgive me if you perceived such).And I am addressing the observation, please do not see my reply as an attack. I would like to see what you have to say on the subject, else I wouldn't have replied to your statement at all![]()
Ha ha Snoop...You must be new here. Threads don't stay on topic.![]()
I do not see your statements (nor anyone elses), as an attack...forgive me if you perceived such).
Me? I'm the embodiment of defensive.It seemed somewhat defensive, no need to apologize though![]()