Coincidences are the consequences of our conscioiusness and conscious choices.
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Coincidence Definition...
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Universalthought2011
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I think our life is guided and sometimes we follow the plan close enough that whomever we were meant to encounter, or whatever situation we were meant to go through happened.
How did I come to that conclusion? it was only after doing history of my life, and anyone can do this. If you do a history going back to the time you were born to now, and if your life has been documented well, through pictures, and if you can plot by month every event that sticks out in your mind, you will see patterns, and perhaps you will even see a progression.
What is this all for?, This is a school...
How did I come to that conclusion? it was only after doing history of my life, and anyone can do this. If you do a history going back to the time you were born to now, and if your life has been documented well, through pictures, and if you can plot by month every event that sticks out in your mind, you will see patterns, and perhaps you will even see a progression.
What is this all for?, This is a school...
Paladin
Purchased Bewilderment
It is a quirk of our brains to see patterns in things, this doesn't prove anything at all.
Look up Apohenia.
Look up Apohenia.
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Eclectic Mystic
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Crap.
If two events coincide, they coincide. Period. To say that there is a causality or that there is not a causality is to take a further step. This further step is beyond the mere fact that the two events coincide.
You inserting a world-view into a word to give it a new definition.
And yes, I am rude.
Paladin
Purchased Bewilderment
Oops, I meant Apophenia.
Thanx for both responses.
I am not making the pattern, I'm identifying the coincidence.
You are right things coincide every moment of every day....
But lets look at what I posited....
Opportunity is said to knock, another saying says when one door closes another opens....
But if i am not aware...conscious...I don't see the opportunity, I don't see the open door.
If I am making choices to be aware, if I am looking for open doors I identify, see what I would perceive as a coincidence....when in reality I by my choices, by my awareness, 'got lucky'.
Anyone could have got lucky....but they chose not to be aware, not to be conscious they walked right by and didn't see that moment where preparation met opportunity...
Paladin
Purchased Bewilderment
And that is never done....over time world views never affect the evolving definitions of words... my bad.
He says proudly.
So what makes one aware of the coindidences (the connections their brain makes), if not a conscious choice, past experience or our overall consciousness. You see, I see hateful folks making links to things that I can't see or understand as I don't choose to connect this item with that.... where as they can't see the links that I see that fit my paradigm.
no worries the other one with the diametrically opposed attitude in this regard along with others is/are teaching me to be more unaware of this....and the brevity of the statement might have sounded rude, so I apologize for that.
Although my brain has not associated rudeness with eclectism or mystism, more with eccentricism and mysery...must be a definition or spelling problem associated with my world view...
Paladin
Purchased Bewilderment
Wil,
The Buddha said that we live and die within our own mind. The mind creates what to you is a coincidence (as you define it) Awareness has no inherent qualities it simply is as your avatar suggests there is only one, or more accurately "not two"
The problem lies in the belief that because we maintain a perspective it not only applies to our subjective world but becomes objective truth. This is something that should encourage critical investigation on our part.
I hold a belief, not sure how true it is, but a belief nonetheless , that by exposing the fallacies we all have come to believe in over the centuries, we will lay bare reality itself.
And the truth of what we are and where we come from could be more amazing and wonderful than any belief, philosophy, or religion could ever be.
The Buddha said that we live and die within our own mind. The mind creates what to you is a coincidence (as you define it) Awareness has no inherent qualities it simply is as your avatar suggests there is only one, or more accurately "not two"
The problem lies in the belief that because we maintain a perspective it not only applies to our subjective world but becomes objective truth. This is something that should encourage critical investigation on our part.
I hold a belief, not sure how true it is, but a belief nonetheless , that by exposing the fallacies we all have come to believe in over the centuries, we will lay bare reality itself.
And the truth of what we are and where we come from could be more amazing and wonderful than any belief, philosophy, or religion could ever be.
I hear ya there!
I mean lets consider with all the special effect that Hollywood can come up with the best they got with heaven is white outfits, fog and harps...
But how about expanding on 'not two'?
Paladin
Purchased Bewilderment
Snoopy or Seattle could probably explain this better, but to me the old Zen (and also Advaita) saying points to a more accurate and hopefully non-dualistic concept of oneness. It has been pointed out that to say "Oneness" still implies an "other" for example to say "we are one" sounds a bit silly because who is the we that are one? The phrase " not two" is simply the finger pointing to the moon.
Not one, not two- a classic DT Suzuki phrase:
August 8 1965 | Suzuki Roshi Dharma Talks
There is Other, there is not. Buddhism, what are you goona do? earl
August 8 1965 | Suzuki Roshi Dharma Talks
There is Other, there is not. Buddhism, what are you goona do?
earl
Paladin
Purchased Bewilderment
Not one, not two- a classic DT Suzuki phrase:
August 8 1965 | Suzuki Roshi Dharma Talks
There is Other, there is not. Buddhism, what are you goona do?
Yup, this causes more misunderstandings
The whole self, no-self thing is tough to discuss for that reason. I like to think of it as what is true in the context of the story (our lives here on earth) and what is ultimately the case.
I think this causes problems in the free-will discussions as well.
A person who is sensing is going to have a hard time discussing this with someone who is intuitive as well. And boy have I seen that happen here over the last few years.
“Not two” refers to a negation of the dualistic stance (that you might characterise, rather predictably, as “Two”). Realisation addresses this incomplete world-view. Hence:
Before realisation.
Two.
Realisation.
Not two.
After realisation.
(Not one : Not two).
(a dynamic interplay because any stance would be incomplete).
seattlegal
Mercuræn Buddhist
Hsin Hsin mingSnoopy or Seattle could probably explain this better, but to me the old Zen (and also Advaita) saying points to a more accurate and hopefully non-dualistic concept of oneness. It has been pointed out that to say "Oneness" still implies an "other" for example to say "we are one" sounds a bit silly because who is the we that are one? The phrase " not two" is simply the finger pointing to the moon.
Paladin
Purchased Bewilderment
Snoopy and Seattlegal,
Thank goodness you two exist. You guys are the bomb
Thank goodness you two exist. You guys are the bomb
ain't it so!Snoopy and Seattlegal,
Thank goodness you two exist. You guys are the bomb
that site is taking me on a trip....
seattlegal
Mercuræn Buddhist
Oh gee, I'd make a funny pun about "not two" here, but it wouldn't be true! (as we are two)Snoopy and Seattlegal,
Thank goodness you two exist. You guys are the bomb
Oh gee, I'd make a funny pun about "not two" here, but it wouldn't be true! (as we are two)
Ok, now, is that not the lesson?
that we are all here talking to ourcellves?
Paladin
Purchased Bewilderment
See Wil, that's why I bought a cell phone, so when I go walking down the street mumbling to myself it appears that I'm doing something constructive.