Dang it, Lunitik, I'm worried about you!
Maybe she had an outer body experience its not outside the realm of possibility. Just because you have not experienced it doesnt mean shes crazy.
Dang it, Lunitik, I'm worried about you!
Lol, it's not that. I'm more worried about his lack of mindfulness while having them. Dangerous, imo.Maybe she had an outer body experience its not outside the realm of possibility. Just because you have not experienced it doesnt mean shes crazy.
Lol, it's not that. I'm more worried about his lack of mindfulness while having them. Dangerous, imo.
Why do you say this?I know what you mean, but what you refer to as heaven is not heaven but material pleasure.
Then there is heaven on Earth, and heaven in heaven.Heaven is where God is, it is his abode and this defines heaven. Where God is, that is heaven.
I find that a lot of people like suffering. I agree that most are not willing to suffer others, but they sure as hell are willing to make others suffer them.Suffering only happens in hell. No one likes suffering and no one would consider it heaven to be suffering.
This is exactly what enlightenment is, and yet it is not possible for mind to come along, it is impossible to fathom that with mind. There will be an impression, this is the minds interpretation of what has happened.
One person's pure love is another person's pure evil.The impression of the experience was merely that of non-duality, of having no border between inner and outer, no barrier because I simply was not there - I merely observed relative to this bodies position. What has been instilled in the time which I cannot recall though? I only know it was pure love.
Dang it, Lunitik, I'm worried about you!
One person's pure love is another person's pure evil.
If you are happy though, then I will be happy for you.![]()
You speak of love like a hidden spring that someone finds wandering, attributing the spring to nobody, not even themselves. I believe you clearly do attribute it to yourself though, for doing something, nothing, and finding. The impression is in your mind, which by your words was not permitted there.How can pure love be evil?
Human love can be evil, certainly, that clinging to other, that objectifying and need to possess that we call love as humans is very evil. I do not speak of this kind of love.
I speak of a love that cannot even cling to your concepts of you, how much less your concepts of other? It simply is, and it overflows, inexhaustible.
You speak of love like a hidden spring that someone finds wandering, attributing the spring to nobody, not even themselves. I believe you clearly do attribute it to yourself though, for doing something, nothing, and finding. The impression is in your mind, which by your words was not permitted there.
I attribute love to a person or group who does the loving. Are you a loving person?
LOL! "I tried to cause you to feel love, but you were just failing to know it." Tell it to the people who know you...The problem is that these words are the same in this language, so you think you know love - I know you do not based on our discussions, though. Perhaps it is better to say it is compassion, a higher form of love. It is not really understandable until it is known though, I have tried to cause you to know but you are not ready.
... you don't know me.It is perfectly good, everything has its right time, but you do not know religion truly until it does occur. All you know today is your concepts and beliefs, true religion is a realization, an experience which cannot be doubted... I hope it graces you soon.
LOL! "I tried to cause you to feel love, but you were just failing to know it." Tell it to the people who know you...
... you don't know me.![]()
LOL! "I tried to cause you to feel love, but you were just failing to know it." Tell it to the people who know you...
... you don't know me.![]()
Do you know it is your mind that protests? Is there anything within you which is drawn to those words? Can it recognize its true nature, remember that it has forgotten itself because it is too much attached to its current situation? Can anything within you remember it is everything, and yet the absence of what it perceives as something here in this place? Do not allow mind to answer, stop giving mind power over you. It is so puny, but you allow it to limit you through your belief in its power.
Mind is so delusional it has seen pure love and utter contentment and it has told you this is wrong, what more proof does your being need to know it is time to leave the delusions it has succumbed to? Find what you really are again, stop giving power to the mind for it has no power of its own - only you fuel it. Stop letting it grab you up into its insanity, simply watch its nonsense and know it is not what you are. Are you ready to wake up? I do not know, but why continue your coma if you are given permission to come out of it?
Be predictable for others as you would prefer others to be predictable for you... captain chaos.It is not possible to know me because I am not predictable, I do not follow any pattern.
Is a person asleep, interactive?Let me say another way then, that I have tried to wake you up, but you remain asleep.
It is no secret: you treasure sensation and awareness.It is not very different, love is the sensation that accompanies awareness.
Yet, you still don't know me.... mind restricts awareness to its limits, but you can be more, you can break down the wall of mind and know infinite expanse.
You are truly a snake oil salesman!Or you can allow mind to write off what I say so that it remains in control of your being, this is absurd though because now your being has believed its own invention.
What value is it to break into your dwelling, and to perceive everything that is not mine?Mind is not your real self at all, else how can it be watched? Who is watching it? You think you are observing with mind, but you are observing what the mind has perceived only.
I have a friend whose personality became "shattered" from this sort of practice. (Much like multiple personality disorder.) His waking mind would just "exit," here and there, not just while in meditation, but also while he was actively doing things. The need to continue doing things (instead of going catatonic) lead to the development of other personalities/sections of consciousness that would continue whatever he was doing when his waking self "exited."
Can you see the drawbacks of such "compartmentalization" of consciousness?
Be predictable for others as you would prefer others to be predictable for you... captain chaos.
Is a person asleep, interactive?
It is no secret: you treasure sensation and awareness.
What value is it to break into your dwelling, and to perceive everything that is not mine?
Removed not just "as master" I would say!I have discussed removing the absurdity of mind-as-master from the equation.
Yeah, I suppose I could call him my "friends" rather than my "friend," but I won't.Your friends seems to have gone the other direction, he has allowed many minds to reside in a single consciousness...