Hell

[Lunitik]

This is pure psycho-fantasy. It is not bonefide knowledge --it's mental speculation, "not that there's anything wrong with that" ---it just simply the opposite of Bonefide.
All truths must be conferred upon the “Under-stander” Student by authority.
You do not know what to fear until it is reported as something to fear and avoid ---this knowledge descends from an unbroken chain of authorities who command the title of ‘Elders’ etc.

I am not interested in knowledge at all, knowledge is of mind which is an illusion and doubt engine only. You have drawn certain conclusions through mind, you have decided that certain historic figures have something special which you must follow, why?

Why postpone anything? Do you think Brahman cannot continue managing your life if you are not involved in it, identified with it? You simply do not trust existence.

We must be taught right from wrong because our tendency is to be slovenly, lusty, lazy and stupid ---all are physical/mental Sense-Stimuli Faculties are inadequate ---our biological ability to see, feel, hear, smell & taste are limited and also simply a product of “Behavioral Conditioning”.

Mind needs right and wrong, immature beings need instruction and barriers of behavior. It is because otherwise they will do things which are destructive and not see anything wrong. We still have murderers in this world, many of which have absolutely no conscious at all. Do you think, however, that telling them murder is wrong will stop them at all?

What I say, it will create a deep change in a person, you will understand the nature of things. In that understanding, you will see murder even of a small bug as destroying a cell of your own body. Who will do this with a clear conscious? Most will be utterly reluctant to do real damage to themselves, but this is close to how things truly are already... humans have merely forgotten.

Is my eyes deceiving me?
Is your post requesting two-diametrically opposite requests?
Don’t you mean to say “You are trying to lecture”

Satori(s)?
Yes I have had such experiences too!
Yet my answering the morning constitution is much more common, daily in fact ---and I have no control except to clench and follow its dictates.

Having an experience that you could not describe to invoke and did not expect to suddenly occur is not a dependable bench-mark.

I totally agree, and yet you have assumed it is not possible to enter at will. I say that true meditation is exactly this, it is for the purpose of deepening what you are describing as a satori (actually probably just a kensho) and eventually, when you are ready, samadhi will happen. You must work towards that though, at first the experience is accidental almost. Then, gradually, you understand what has triggered it and can begin experimenting. You will know eventually exactly how to induce it reliably, but it will remain a work to accomplish. Then you will find this gets easier and easier until it just happens whenever you want it, there is no longer a difficulty entering the space at all...

Of course, samadhi means you will reside in that space, you will be lost to it utterly. This is the goal, although it is extremely scary, entering into it absolutely feels as though you will die - such fear is there, it is unimaginable. I have not had the nerve yet to go into that, although it is there to tease me, patiently waiting for my final let go.

Astral-projection; or a moment of insight; or the sudden evaporation of all thoughts and memories, thus leaving one’s raw Pure-Consciousness exposed; or a fleeting glimpse of the Bio-mechanical-mathematical-emotional-economic “Order of Reality” does not make one and Enlightened being.

Krishna is a Person. The Krishna I refer to is Thee one and only God-Almighty that has been hidden from mankind.

To be Conscious of that revelation is enlightenment. Now the work of “re-linking” in the pastimes of Krishna’s existence and proceed.

Remember, the specificity of something Absolute cannot be replaced with any alternative. IE: You cannot open a safe with the wrong combination of numbers; nor can you call a telephone number dialing the wrong series of numbers.

This is something I cannot accept, Krishna has become enlightened and thus these statements are perfectly good from him. You saying he is the one though, it is not so, he has still experienced relatively to his body. He has still interacted with all around him, he is not omnipresent at all although he has created 10,000 of himself in one story. He is a normal man that has gone beyond, it is possible for all of us.

Krishna, as the God, who is the Supreme Personality of Personal-ism is revealed in no other scriptural source. No scripture makes the same claims; nor can they ---they properly/honestly invoke the state of ignorance that we are living in ---only Absolute revelation of God and only by God Himself can pin-point God’s own Personality; and the nature of that personage would be an “Absolute”.

Personality, personage, personalism, what is the relevance of any of this? They are pseudo expressions, they are not genuine at all. The void is all there is, you are already that, do you know it? I do not think you do, because still you are devoted to another that has encountered this truth...

Krishna was a beautiful man, utterly trusting of existence, for me his celebration is far more profound than any other that has entered the space. Always, there is something missing in other enlightened beings. Many become quite anti-life in their messages, they pit material and spiritual against one another. Only Krishna has been a complete cosmos, an example of utter integration - I love him.

Still, he is no different from you or I, he is simply more awake.

 

[Lunitik]

radarmark: I will reply to you later.

 

[Lunitik]

Related to meditation. You will never always close your eyes and when you are God is doing something to cause something else to occur related to the uniting of your existence area. When I close my eyes I am understanding what is happening now related to understanding ability at areas pertaining to life that is consciousness that is with me. This is similar to what some understood a part of with Freud and what was labeled "Understanding by way of Aural Images of Dialogues". What has been called dreaming has not been well talked about and it is interesting to know about completely combined with what is reincarnation and repositioning. Repositioning does not involve separations by what you refer to as death and reincarnation. Even with what is a reformation, there is no experience of death except for the person going over to look into it because there is something about God and life they are misunderstanding that is coming in from a grouping of partial images and words able to be called a collective unconscious.
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You are accepting your identification with these distractions, you are going entering into the distraction as though it is absolutely necessary to interact with it...

Do you not see that merely the fact you are able to watch - for example - an itch means it is not from you? If you give it no attention at all, if you simply permit it for now and continue meditating, will it continue to attempt distraction? What if I told you this sensation has come from mind, that mind is trying to trick you into not going any deeper?

You simply find out where these thoughts, these sensations, all things observed have come from. Eventually there will be a distance created between what you are and what is happening around you - in the body, in the mind, as well as the space around you outside the body. Now you can begin to investigate directly into that observer, now there is true meditation that is possible. If you attempt to meditate before you can recognize this, it will not help at all, you are simply wasting your time sitting around doing nothing.

Eventually, you will maintain this separation of witness and witnessed even outside of intentions to meditate. Many ask "who is the meditator?" and "why does he meditate?" to help you see that even identifying as a meditator is wrong, it must become your normal experience, not something you do sometimes...

If you are aware of the witness though, can it too be witnessed? This is the ultimate, this is where non-duality is realized. Before, it is a conception only, but now it is directly encountered. You have turned consciousness back on itself, and now you are the Whole, you are divine.

 

[Lunitik]

Lunitk
What I am describing to you that you can do in this existence or another is to be able to walk around in what is a meditation. You can say perpetual mindfulness, if that is a phrase that you go around with. I do not have what is called internal dialogue or thinking and I do not experience distraction walking or when my eyes are closed. When you are using yourself with what is a united aware consciousness, there is nothing you tell yourself or experience in the area of the nervous system and the only understanding that is occurring when you are aware of this area is about what is being understood now at areas of activity pertaining to what God is doing moving life into unity. This understanding is placed to an area of the circulatory system (using itself in a continuous way). When there is something happening that God is doing to unite everyone and everything that can understand continuously, you do not exist in this area. I understand from your writing that you have experienced this before.

If there is something interesting to you we can say more.

It is strange, then, that we are both talking about the same thing, and yet have not seen it in each other... I enjoy mind as a way to entertain me at times, and of course it is a very useful tool when utilized to its potential, but in many people mind has become master. They act on things which arise in mind, they become "lost in their own world".

Silence is beautiful, that emptiness which is perfect and lacking nothing, the exhilaration of love, the wonderment of a child with all that is encountered... it is bliss. I wish for all humans to experience it, to realize who they truly are, their own true majesty. Of course, you do not speak in this way, at least not so far on these boards. You refer to Truth as God, you seem to set it as other still despite expressing things of oneness and unity. Have you simply not yet realized only that is, and thus you must be it as well? Have you not yet realized that this experience is merely your own imagination forgetting its real self, like an actor that has forgotten this is only a part he is playing?

You speak as if you have mastered some disciplines, attained to certain truths, and yet do not speak plainly about those truths you have been shown?

 

[Bhaktajan II]

Lunitik
Personality, personage, personalism, what is the relevance of any of this? They are pseudo expressions, they are not genuine at all.

"Ah Just go to hell Lunitik"*


<*THIS WAS BHAKTAJAN'S ACADEMIC EXPERIMENTAL QUERY>

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Lunitik
The void is all there is

BTW, Krishna calls you a "Fool" ---did you know that?

Gita 9.11
Krishna said to Arjuna:
"Fools deride Me when I descend in the human form. They do not know My transcendental nature as the Supreme Lord of all that be."

God! It seems as if those words sat around for 5,000 years waiting to catch up with you. But I think you safe as long as you do not take it personally.

what say you, or your mind , or whatever nomenclature it should say on the subpoena that absolutely identifies you,
Bhaktajan

 

[Lunitik]

Gita 9.11
Krishna said to Arjuna:
"Fools deride Me when I descend in the human form. They do not know My transcendental nature as the Supreme Lord of all that be."

This is perfectly correct, nothing I have said contradicts this verse in any way.

Do you see that you deride me as has happened to Krishna? How will I show you my nature when you are unwilling to accept it? I can only try by showing you it is your nature as well. That is of the void though, it is unrelated with the human form - the human form is exactly as yours or anyone elses.

Why will there be physical features or so which single out one that has been descended upon? Not all of the sleeping are ready to awake, not all souls are mature enough yet.

 

[seattlegal]

It is strange, then, that we are both talking about the same thing, and yet have not seen it in each other... I enjoy mind as a way to entertain me at times, and of course it is a very useful tool when utilized to its potential, but in many people mind has become master. They act on things which arise in mind, they become "lost in their own world".

Silence is beautiful, that emptiness which is perfect and lacking nothing, the exhilaration of love, the wonderment of a child with all that is encountered... it is bliss. I wish for all humans to experience it, to realize who they truly are, their own true majesty. Of course, you do not speak in this way, at least not so far on these boards. You refer to Truth as God, you seem to set it as other still despite expressing things of oneness and unity. Have you simply not yet realized only that is, and thus you must be it as well? Have you not yet realized that this experience is merely your own imagination forgetting its real self, like an actor that has forgotten this is only a part he is playing?

You speak as if you have mastered some disciplines, attained to certain truths, and yet do not speak plainly about those truths you have been shown?

Lunitik, you do understand that one day you will also need to wean yourself from the bosom of the void?

 

[Lunitik]

Lunitik, you do understand that one day you will also need to wean yourself from the bosom of the void?

I am the void, how will I wean myself from myself? It will only be that I go deeper into it, lose myself utterly to it, this ultimately happens at death - what is called paranirvana in the Buddhist train of thought.

In Buddhism, the void is called as emptiness. It is because the quality of it is empty, and yet it encompasses everything, it is the ultimate nature of all things. Void sort of brings images of a vacuum, almost like a black whole. The Buddhist concept is much more accurate, but I had been talking with a Hindu so I continued with those words... it is describing the same thing either way, however.

 

[seattlegal]

I am the void, how will I wean myself from myself? It will only be that I go deeper into it, lose myself utterly to it, this ultimately happens at death - what is called paranirvana in the Buddhist train of thought.

In Buddhism, the void is called as emptiness. It is because the quality of it is empty, and yet it encompasses everything, it is the ultimate nature of all things. Void sort of brings images of a vacuum, almost like a black whole. The Buddhist concept is much more accurate, but I had been talking with a Hindu so I continued with those words... it is describing the same thing either way, however.

If the Buddhist concept is more accurate, you might want to examine it:

Śūnyatā

Śūnyatā, शून्यता (Sanskrit noun from the adj. śūnya: "zero, nothing"), Suññatā (Pāli; adj. suñña), stong-pa nyid (Tibetan), Kòng/Kū, 空 (Chinese/Japanese), Gong-seong, 공성(空性) (Korean), qoγusun (Mongolian) is frequently translated into English as emptiness. Sunya comes from the root svi, meaning swollen, plus -ta -ness, therefore hollow ( - ness). A common alternative term is "voidness".
The theme of emptiness (śūnyatā) emerged from the Buddhist doctrines of the nonexistence of the self (Pāli: anatta, Sanskrit: anātman). The Suñña Sutta,[1] part of the Pāli canon, relates that the monk Ānanda, Buddha's attendant asked, "It is said that the world is empty, the world is empty, lord. In what respect is it said that the world is empty?" The Buddha replied, "Insofar as it is empty of a self or of anything pertaining to a self: Thus it is said, Ānanda, that the world is empty." As emptiness correlates with Anatta, so it is often cited as one of the three marks of existence.
The exact definition and extent of emptiness varies from one Buddhist tradition to another; this can easily lead to confusion. These traditions all explain in slightly different ways what phenomena are empty of, which phenomena exactly are empty and what emptiness means.​

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[Lunitik]

If the Buddhist concept is more accurate, you might want to examine it:

Śūnyatā

Śūnyatā, शून्यता (Sanskrit noun from the adj. śūnya: "zero, nothing"), Suññatā (Pāli; adj. suñña), stong-pa nyid (Tibetan), Kòng/Kū, 空 (Chinese/Japanese), Gong-seong, 공성(空性) (Korean), qoγusun (Mongolian) is frequently translated into English as emptiness. Sunya comes from the root svi, meaning swollen, plus -ta -ness, therefore hollow ( - ness). A common alternative term is "voidness".
The theme of emptiness (śūnyatā) emerged from the Buddhist doctrines of the nonexistence of the self (Pāli: anatta, Sanskrit: anātman). The Suñña Sutta,[1] part of the Pāli canon, relates that the monk Ānanda, Buddha's attendant asked, "It is said that the world is empty, the world is empty, lord. In what respect is it said that the world is empty?" The Buddha replied, "Insofar as it is empty of a self or of anything pertaining to a self: Thus it is said, Ānanda, that the world is empty." As emptiness correlates with Anatta, so it is often cited as one of the three marks of existence.
The exact definition and extent of emptiness varies from one Buddhist tradition to another; this can easily lead to confusion. These traditions all explain in slightly different ways what phenomena are empty of, which phenomena exactly are empty and what emptiness means.​

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Why do you continuously point out texts which try to explain things which I have encountered directly? It is exactly the realization that self is false which has led to my statements of ego having to die, for instance, or that there is only one true being. How do these things apply, you might ask?

What is the correlation between what is meant by self and ego? It is that both are a concept of mind, they are what you consider as "I"... this concept must die. Now, in samadhi, there is a phenomenal experience of this, the self, ego or soul leaves through the belly button. Now you have no free will any longer, you are simply a pure watcher, there is no longer a possibility of returning to normal experiencing...

This begins to enter a very esoteric path, though. I am more interested in creating satori's in these discussions, there is much which can go wrong in samadhi - I believe your friend is an example of someone that has entered samadhi without anyone to assist, to reassure, he has not known what is happening so has not gone deeper or come back out. Usually it is simply experienced as a very traumatic thing, hyper-emotional. It is not safe to even discuss this aspect over the internet at all, all I point to is how to have the first satori - how to glimpse truth for the first time - it is perfectly safe alone...

As I have said, entering samadhi without anyone that knows what they are doing has resulted in deaths. The most famous is what the Theosophical Society did to the brother of Krishnamurti, it is absolutely tragic how much they have rushed both of these boys.

 

[seattlegal]

Why do you continuously point out texts which try to explain things which I have encountered directly?

Because you continually make false claims about religions, in this case, Buddhism. Simple as that.

I am the void, how will I wean myself from myself? It will only be that I go deeper into it, lose myself utterly to it, this ultimately happens at death - what is called paranirvana in the Buddhist train of thought.

In Buddhism, the void is called as emptiness. It is because the quality of it is empty, and yet it encompasses everything, it is the ultimate nature of all things. Void sort of brings images of a vacuum, almost like a black whole. The Buddhist concept is much more accurate, but I had been talking with a Hindu so I continued with those words... it is describing the same thing either way, however.

"It is said that the world is empty, the world is empty, lord. In what respect is it said that the world is empty?" The Buddha replied, "Insofar as it is empty of a self or of anything pertaining to a self: Thus it is said, Ānanda, that the world is empty."

Understand?

 

[Lunitik]

Because you continually make false claims about religions, in this case, Buddhism.

It is merely that your mind finds conflicts in my words and these scriptures, you have seen my use of words which to you signify or strengthen the self yet it is not so, they are merely words. If I began using "one" to refer to this experiencer, for me it simply comes across in a very strange way. Not only this, but it is simply another training, another discipline which simply is unnecessary. In reality, it is only a convenience of language, this is how it is understood in this mind and it is absolutely necessary to filter through this mind to express to you. It is the state which Buddha speaks of, not the way it is communicated... understand this difference.

You have certain expectations, you think that only certain ways of describing things is valid, you differentiate instead of trying to see how my words are the same as Buddha or others. You do not yet realize this is all from mind, you have simply decided I do not mesh with your expectations so you write off all that I say.

What I speak of is exactly the same as what Buddha has spoken of, how I say it is different, language just changes over 2500+ years. What is important is what I point towards, not how I point at it. This is always consistent, and it is the same thing which all the enlightened ones have pointed. Stop looking at the surface and find that core which is the same. Relatively few people on this planet encounter someone who has found their way home, if you are genuinely interested in spirituality you will take advantage of it instead of concentrating on what is wrong with my words.

Mind will come up with a million reasons why my words are not right. Why do you think we have so many religions on this earth? It is not because people have agreed they are all discussing the same things... there is absolutely nothing special about any of these founders though, it is simply that people have clung to one way of speaking about the absolute and rejected all others. The differentiation in religion is completely about mind, all of them have always spoken of exactly the same thing in reality... can you see that this is so? I will say that mind will be greatly satisfied if you can find that commonality, that very satisfaction will greatly enhance your journey because it will stop disputing. It has now found the truth by itself, now you can use this momentum to actually encounter it. I have consistently pointed at what is similar, the core stream of all faiths, use that to return to those scriptures and see the same in them.

I am not interested in how you reach, I am interested in whether you reach.

 

[seattlegal]

It is merely that your mind finds conflicts in my words and these scriptures, you have seen my use of words which to you signify or strengthen the self yet it is not so, they are merely words. If I began using "one" to refer to this experiencer, for me it simply comes across in a very strange way. Not only this, but it is simply another training, another discipline which simply is unnecessary. In reality, it is only a convenience of language, this is how it is understood in this mind and it is absolutely necessary to filter through this mind to express to you. It is the state which Buddha speaks of, not the way it is communicated... understand this difference.

You have certain expectations, you think that only certain ways of describing things is valid, you differentiate instead of trying to see how my words are the same as Buddha or others. You do not yet realize this is all from mind, you have simply decided I do not mesh with your expectations so you write off all that I say.

What I speak of is exactly the same as what Buddha has spoken of, how I say it is different, language just changes over 2500+ years.

There you go lying again. Buddhism is about purifying the mind, not dropping the mind.

Dhammapada 1:1-14

1. Mind precedes all mental states. Mind is their chief; they are all mind-wrought. If with an impure mind a person speaks or acts suffering follows him like the wheel that follows the foot of the ox.
2. Mind precedes all mental states. Mind is their chief; they are all mind-wrought. If with a pure mind a person speaks or acts happiness follows him like his never-departing shadow.
3. "He abused me, he struck me, he overpowered me, he robbed me." Those who harbor such thoughts do not still their hatred.
4. "He abused me, he struck me, he overpowered me, he robbed me." Those who do not harbor such thoughts still their hatred.
5. Hatred is never appeased by hatred in this world. By non-hatred alone is hatred appeased. This is a law eternal.
6. There are those who do not realize that one day we all must die. But those who do realize this settle their quarrels.
7. Just as a storm throws down a weak tree, so does Mara overpower the man who lives for the pursuit of pleasures, who is uncontrolled in his senses, immoderate in eating, indolent, and dissipated. [1]
8. Just as a storm cannot prevail against a rocky mountain, so Mara can never overpower the man who lives meditating on the impurities, who is controlled in his senses, moderate in eating, and filled with faith and earnest effort. [2]
9. Whoever being depraved, devoid of self-control and truthfulness, should don the monk's yellow robe, he surely is not worthy of the robe.
10. But whoever is purged of depravity, well-established in virtues and filled with self-control and truthfulness, he indeed is worthy of the yellow robe.
11. Those who mistake the unessential to be essential and the essential to be unessential, dwelling in wrong thoughts, never arrive at the essential.
12. Those who know the essential to be essential and the unessential to be unessential, dwelling in right thoughts, do arrive at the essential.
13. Just as rain breaks through an ill-thatched house, so passion penetrates an undeveloped mind.
14. Just as rain does not break through a well-thatched house, so passion never penetrates a well-developed mind.​

What is important is what I point towards, not how I point at it. This is always consistent, and it is the same thing which all the enlightened ones have pointed.

lol

Stop looking at the surface and find that core which is the same. Relatively few people on this planet encounter someone who has found their way home, if you are genuinely interested in spirituality you will take advantage of it instead of concentrating on what is wrong with my words.

Stop lying, and I will stop calling you out on the carpet for it.

Mind will come up with a million reasons why my words are not right.

Yes, it is called discernment. Discernment can be difficult if you insist on dropping your mind instead of purifying your mind and developing it.

Why do you think we have so many religions on this earth? It is not because people have agreed they are all discussing the same things... there is absolutely nothing special about any of these founders though, it is simply that people have clung to one way of speaking about the absolute and rejected all others. The differentiation in religion is completely about mind, all of them have always spoken of exactly the same thing in reality... can you see that this is so?

In a mystical sense, there are many similarities among most religions. Refraining from untruthfulness is one element that is broadly agreed upon acrossed many religions.

I will say that mind will be greatly satisfied if you can find that commonality, that very satisfaction will greatly enhance your journey because it will stop disputing. It has now found the truth by itself, now you can use this momentum to actually encounter it. I have consistently pointed at what is similar, the core stream of all faiths, use that to return to those scriptures and see the same in them.

Making false statements and ascribing words to people who did not say them is not indicative of having found the truth, is it?

I am not interested in how you reach, I am interested in whether you reach.

Fair enough. Just quit lying.

 

[Lunitik]

Buddhism is about creating a situation in which you are purely aware, where thought does not arise unless you want it to... what is mind though? I have compared it to a school of fish, without the individual thoughts it cannot exist. Buddhist practice attempts to make you realize that thoughts do not arise from you, they have come from somewhere else and are as guests to enjoy until they pass. It teaches you to be absolutely unidentified with any of it, and this eventually brings about the witness which I talk much about.

Again, I say to you this is your mistake. You have become a Buddhist, a scholarly reader of a certain literature. Buddha is credited as saying "Do not become a Buddhist, be a Buddha", he has also said "Be a light unto yourself" - in fact they were his last words. Now, I point at certain concepts of Buddha and you expect me to utterly agree with your interpretation of him, I point at Jesus and you expect the same. I merely use their words to express my own experience, what else can I do? Can I make up words for these things? What meaning will they have for those to whom I speak them?

It is very difficult to walk this line because always there are those who are not interested in truth, they are interested in devouring knowledge and proving how much they have learned. It is a very prideful thing in fact, you are wanting to show superiority. I know why I say what I do, Buddha has contradicted and said false things too because he has only been concerned with getting people to the peak.

Now I will have to explain my reasons to you so perhaps you can stop trying to prove me wrong on this. First of all, it is impossible to experience the ultimate through mind, else you will have already encountered it. Even if you have encountered it, you will recognize that it is something which occurs between the gaps of thought. Secondly, I constantly say "mind must die". The reason here is two fold, one is that it shows mind is the enemy, it is what is currently wrong. Two, it causes you to confront any fear of death, do not misunderstand, attainment is a deep enquiry into death while still here on this earth. It is absolutely how religion has been discovered, just as Buddha has found it completely naturally: he has seen the suffering which must come with life, he has seen the frailty of life, and then he has seen the termination of life. He has began this enquiry into the nature of it, to discover that which is permanent - do you think mind is permanent? Can something which is constantly changing be so?

Now, you are perfectly correct, you will remain mindful, I prefer aware because it does not maintain that thought is there arising constantly as is normally the case. To type these words, to formulate these sentences, mind is there. I will have to recall the words, I will have to know where each key is that I press, all of this is mind. As Allelyah has said, however, there will simply cease to be all the chatter. You stop wasting so much energy on this thinking, then this energy can be used for something else. You will note that meditation is also primarily a way to preserve energy, it is rather like a deep sleep for the body, it has quite similar effects - and there is the same exhilaration afterwards.

Now, you have not trusted my words, now my devices are meaningless for you and anyone else that has read this will understand what I am doing when I raise these things in the future. With this understanding, it becomes utterly ineffective. Why has Buddha lied repeatedly? It is to drop the concepts of those that have come to him, to cause them to question all of their beliefs and simply experience for themselves. Buddha has even said not to take anything he says as truth without confirmation, yet I have been to the peak, I speak far more directly and you go on pointing to what you have learned from Buddhist scripture.

 

[seattlegal]

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Again, I say to you this is your mistake. You have become a Buddhist, a scholarly reader of a certain literature.

Who said I'm a Buddhist?

 

[Bhaktajan II]

Do you see that you deride me as has happened to Krishna?

No I do see what you have said.
I quote authoritative sources for the benefit of others edification.

Never-the-less, I do hope you reach a state of samadhi in this life ---I am an honest tour guide in these regards.

Originally Posted by seattlegal
Lunitik, you do understand that one day you will also need to wean yourself from the bosom of the void?

This is such a sweet spot-on aphorism!

Originally Posted by Lunitik:
I am the void, how will I wean myself from myself?

The void is actually the "Brahmajyoti" effulgence (God's Personal bodily luster).
That Brahmajyoti effulgence eminates from God's Body and alights the Transcendant Spiritual Sky of God's Transcendantal [beyond Material Energy's qualities] abode.

When the Brahmajyoti effulgence shines through and permeates the material energy [this maya-prakriti is eminating from the Sleeping Maha-Vishnu's breathe]. The entire cloud-like mass of Maha-Vishnu's breathe in Floating in a corner of the Spiritual Sky of God's Personal bodily effulgence.

When that effulgence is found in the material energy as equilant to the void.

We spirit souls are infintestimally small portions of that "Brahmajyoti" effulgence ---we [souls] are a spark of that "Brahmajyoti" effulgence.

As a "part and parcel" we must voluntarily learn the ettiquette of serving the "Whole" selflessly so as to gain face time with God. Actually we were originally & eternally already there ---but the illusion is that our present state is never-ending yet ironically that equates to samsara ---when we return back home to the Transcendant pastimes of Godhead's entourage ---we resume where we left off
[BTW, we left off with the thought that "How would it be to be God over all I survey” ---hence Brahma’s First Birth in the material world of samsara.]

So the dissolution of that pin-point space occupied by a Living-Soul is not possible --- a Living-Soul stirs with desires ---the ultimate desire is to serve as part and parcel of the whole.